How Do You Calculate the Impedance of a Submerged Electrode?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the impedance of a submerged electrode using a ring-shaped counter electrode in seawater. The initial approach involves decomposing the cylinder into differential surfaces and calculating resistance using specific formulas for R_s1 and R_s2 based on resistivity and distance. However, the proposed method is deemed incorrect as it oversimplifies the current flow and does not account for the complexities of 3D geometries. The recommended solution involves using finite-element simulation packages for accurate impedance calculations.

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[Moderator note: This is an old thread from 2010. But it sounds like a good question, so I moved it here and bumped it to the top.]

Hello, this is my first post to PF. I've been trying to find out my answer in similar posts (resistance of a disk, ...) with no luck. So I would really appreciate some help. Here's the thing:

I am trying to calculate the impedance of an electrode submerged in sea water, using a ring shaped counter electrode (the attached images depicts the system).

In order to find out a value I decompose the cylinder in diferential surfaces dS, and calculate the resistance for each element using R_dS=R_sx/(2∙π∙r∙dx)
Where R_sx can be R_s1 (for those elements of the electrode that overlap with the cathode) or R_s2 (for the rest of the elements)

R_s1=ρ∙d, being ρ the resistivity of the electrolyte and d the distance between the cathode and the anode (electrode).
R_s2=ρ∙√(d^2+x^2 ), being x the distance in the x-axis between the right border of the cathode and the considered diferential element.

to calculate total resistance i do the inverse of the sum of the inverses of all the diferential resistances. (that a tongue twister! :-p)

Is this whole solution valid? I assume that all the current lines of the elements separated from the cathode go from the electrode to the same point (right border) of the cathode, is that the real situation? any suggestions for improving the model? Thanks a lot guys, you are the best, keep up with the hard work.
 

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Unfortunately both the approach and the details are incorrect. Given a potential difference V, one must solve for the spatially varying current density in order to arrive (via integration) at total current and, finally, at R=V/I. The assumption that current returns to a single edge (the drawing doesn't make much sense, furthermore, it doesn't look like a ring) is unphysical. On the left edge of the drawing, a great deal of current will flow vertically between cathode and anode, for instance.

The number of configurations that can be solved analytically is very small. Conformal mapping is useful for certain 2D configurations and is covered in older texts (see the excellent book by E. Weber, Electromagnetic Theory: Static Fields and Their Mapping, or Smythe, Static and Dynamic Electricity.) For 3D geometries like the one above, the best approach is to use a finite-element or similar simulation package.
 
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