How Do You Convert f=xy Into a Function of t for Integration Over a Curve?

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The problem involves finding the integral of a function f=xy over a curve defined in polar coordinates, specifically C={r=cos(2t), theta=2t, for 0<=t<=pi/2}. The challenge lies in converting the function f into a form that can be integrated with respect to the parameter t.

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  • Participants discuss the need to express the variables x and y in terms of polar coordinates and subsequently in terms of the parameter t. There is a focus on understanding how to convert the function f=xy for integration.

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The discussion is progressing with participants sharing insights on converting coordinates and recognizing the relationship between the functions and their domains. Some participants have successfully made connections between the definitions of r and theta and their expressions in terms of t.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of vector calculus and the implications of parameterization in integration, particularly in the context of polar coordinates. There is an emphasis on understanding the setup of the problem and the necessary conversions for integration.

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I am asked to find the integral over C of fds given C={r=cos(2t), theta=2t, for 0<=t<=pi/2} and f=xy.

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I know the integral over C of fds is the integral over C of [fsqrt(r'^2+r^2(theta)'^2)]dt, but I don't know how to convert my function f=xy into a function of t so that I can integrate using the dt. I know x=rcos(theta) and y=rsin(theta), but that doesn't allow me to integrate with respect to t.
 
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You're basically asked to do a weighted line integral. It is similar to finding the length of C (the "line" in question), except, instead of f=1, you have f=xy.

So, you want to convert x and y to r and θ. Then, r and θ will be expressed in terms of t.

Do you know how to convert x and y to polar coordinates?

If you get that far, then you will be able to convert the polar coordinates using the "C={..." statement you gave.
 
Perfect! I had converted x and y to polar coordinates but I was getting stuck with theta's and r's! I didn't realize that from how C was defined I could rewrite the r and theta's! Thanks a bunch.
 
You're welcome! That was usually my biggest hang-up with vector calculus was realizing the interplay between the functions and their domain, and how the domain of the function could be realized through simple direct substitution (say, x=f(t) and y=g(t) then integrate over t)
 

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