How Do You Find the Argument of the Sum of Two Complex Numbers?

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The discussion revolves around finding the argument of the sum of two complex numbers, z1 and z2, given their arguments and moduli. The problem involves understanding the relationship between complex numbers in polar form and their rectangular representation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the arguments and moduli of the complex numbers, with some suggesting the use of trigonometric identities. Others discuss converting to rectangular form for simplification and express concerns about recognizing specific angles.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being considered. Some participants suggest converting to rectangular form, while others are hesitant due to past experiences with specific angle values. There is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention previous experiences with similar problems and express uncertainty about recognizing certain angles, which may influence their approach to the current problem.

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Homework Statement


If given two complex numbers z1 and z2 that have arguments \theta and \phi, and moduli r and R respectively, then find an expression for the mod-arg form of z1+z2


Homework Equations


z=x+iy=re^{i\theta}=rcis\theta


The Attempt at a Solution


I can't seem to find a way to relate z1+z2 since I would need to somehow combine the trigonometry terms of:
z_1+z_2=rcis\theta+Rcis\phi=rcos\theta+Rcos\phi+i(rsin\theta+Rsin\phi)

In a similar fashion, z_1z_2=rcis\theta.Rcis\phi=rRcis(\theta+\phi) which does have a relationship. Can I do anything to that equation to find the argument of the new complex number z1+z2?

I'm aware that I can convert both complex numbers into x+iy form and then go from there and also if there are some simple values for r and R, such as r=R then the arg(z_1+z_2)=(\theta+\phi)/2
 
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When you add complex numbers it is the same as adding 2d vectors.
so your
radius = sqrt[ (x1+x2)^2 + (y1+y2)^2]
angle = tan-1 [(y1+y2)/(x1+x2)]

x=radius*cos (angle)
y=radius*sin(angle)

After some expansion and trig formulas
r= sqrt[r^2 + R^2 + 2rRcos(theta-phi)]
angle=tan-1[ rsin(theta)+Rsin(phi) / rcos(theta) + Rsin(phi)
 
Seems like it would be a lot easier to convert the two complex numbers to rectangular form, and then add components, then convert the sum back to polar form. It might be that's what korican04 was saying...
 
Korican04, the final result you obtain doesn't help my situation. Thanks for the attempt though :smile:

Mark, the reason why I wanted to avoid converting to rectangular form is because when I was helping someone with a question which required to find arg(z1+z2) where z1 and z2 were some known complex numbers which I don't remember right now, the answer turned out to be 3\pi/8 and both me and the guy I was helping haven't been taught to easily recognize the number x=tan(3\pi/8).
 

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