How Do You Find the Gravitational Field at a Corner of a Square?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the gravitational field at a corner of a square due to three masses positioned at other corners. The participants explore the correct approach to find both the magnitude and direction of the gravitational field, emphasizing the importance of treating gravitational forces as vector fields rather than simply adding them arithmetically. One participant provides a final answer involving the gravitational constant G, mass M, and mass m, while another suggests resolving forces into components for accurate calculations. The conversation highlights the necessity of using trigonometric functions to combine these vector components correctly. Overall, the discussion aims to clarify the method for determining the gravitational field in this specific configuration.
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Homework Statement



Three objects -- two of mass m and one of mass M -- are located at three corners of a square of edge length l as in Figure P13.23. Find the gravitational field g at the fourth corner due to these objects. (Express your answers in terms of the edge length l, the masses m and M, and the gravitational constant G).

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Find the magnitude and direction of the gravitational field g.


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The direction is 45 degrees (measured counterclockwise from the positive x-axis)

G((4m+M)/(2l^2)) was the final simplified answer I got for the magnitude, but it was wrong.
 

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Base equation: Gravitational field force = GMm/(l^2)

I see three gravitational forces at work:
Gm/l^2 on the y-axis

Gm/l^2 on the x axis

GM/((sqrt(2) times l)^2)

Add all three so 2Gm/2l^2 + 2Gm/2l^2 + GM/2l^2 = (G(4m+M))/(2((l)^2))
 
Welcome to PF.

Careful, as in Why do all the denominators look alike when you showed the diagonal object to have longer radius?

Never mind i see what you did.
 
Thanks. See any easy mistakes or did I go the wrong direction?
 
No I found no mistakes so I was sort of head scratching on this one, hoping someone else might see a problem if there is one. Of course these are vector fields, which might be the issue.
 
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I GOT THE ANSWER FROM A FRIEND:

(G/l^2)(M/2+sqrt(2)m)

Can anyone help me work it out now that the answer is known?
 
It is to do with the fact that the fields are vector fields.

You can't just arithmetically add the 3 fields up, you have to consider their direction. It's like if you push a block north with 1N and east with 1N the overall force is \sqrt{2}N in the NE direction, not 2N. So I'd recommend drawing a diagram and doing a bit of pythagoras.
 
No problem, resolve the diagonal force into x and y components which can be added like scalars

cos and sin are both sqrt(2)/2 so mult your diag. expression and add to the x and y components from other forces, then calculate magnitude by taking the sqrt of sum of squares. Falls out like honey in a bucket. I suspect you'll never make this mistake again. good problem and post.
 
Hi Guys, i guess this is the answer, I'm not sure! but? if someone has a comment reply pls.xxx
tanθ = gy / gx
= [ Gm / L2 + G M /2L2 sinθ ] / [ Gm /L2 + G M / 2L2 cosθ ]

θ = tan-1 { [ Gm / L2 + G M / 2L2 sinθ ] / [ Gm /L2 + G M / 2L2 cosθ ]}
 
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