How Do You Integrate 9x³/sqrt(1+x²) with a Trigonometric Substitution?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function 9x³/sqrt(1+x²), focusing on the appropriate substitution methods to simplify the integral.

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  • Participants explore various substitution methods, including trigonometric and hyperbolic substitutions. There is a discussion about the confusion surrounding the term 9x³ and how to handle it within the integral.

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Several participants have offered different substitution techniques, indicating a productive exchange of ideas. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach, as multiple methods are being considered.

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Some participants question the necessity of trigonometric substitutions, suggesting alternative approaches that may simplify the problem. The original poster expresses confusion about the integration process, particularly regarding the term 9x³.

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integrate this

9x³/sqrt(1+x²)

I know I am suppose to substitute using: x = tan x
dx = sec²x

but that's as far as i could go. its the 9x³ that confuses me on what i should do.
thank you for your help in advance.
 
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You should not be substituting x = tan x. You should be substituting x = tan u. Then, dx = sec2u du. So substitute tan u everywhere there is a x, and sec2u du for dx to get a complete integral in u.
 
[tex]x= \sinh u[/tex] as a substitution should do the trick.
 
bigubau said:
[tex]x= \sinh u[/tex] as a substitution should do the trick.

You don't need trig at all. u=1+x^2 will work fine. Try it.
 
thanks guys for all the help really appreciate it
 

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