How do you know when k in Hooke's law is positive or negativ

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The discussion centers on the application of Hooke's Law in a physics problem involving a 7.2-kg mass suspended by a spring with a spring constant of 150 N/m in an elevator. The key equation used is ma = kx - mg, where "k" is always a positive constant representing the spring's stiffness. The participants clarify that the sign of the force depends on the direction of the forces and the chosen coordinate system, emphasizing that the spring force is restorative. The correct formulation of Hooke's Law is F = -kx, which accounts for the direction of the force relative to displacement.

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A 7.2-kg mass is hanging from the ceiling of an elevator by a spring of spring constant 150N/m whose unstretched length is 80 cm. What is the overall length of the spring when the elevator: (a) starts moving upward with acceleration 0.95m/s2 ; (b) moves upward at a steady 14m/s ; (c) comes to a stop while moving upward at 14 m/s , taking 9.0 s to do so? (d) If the elevator measures 3.2 m from floor to ceiling, what is the maximum acceleration it could undergo without the 7.2-kg mass hitting the f loor?

In part (a), the professor used the equation ma = kx - mg, with the solution being 80 + x. I have seen both equations as F = kx and F = -kx. Now, I realize one must analyze every siruation, but there must beva way to resolve which way the spring is moving. Thank you.

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AFAIK, "k" is always a positive coefficient. Whether the "Force" is "positive" or "negative" depends on the directions of the forces and the directions of the unit vectors in the coordinate systems. Spring force is always restorative to the equilibrium position of the spring when it is neither extended nor compressed. Does that make sense?
 
Derek Marusarz said:
I have seen both equations as F = kx and F = -kx.
Further to berkeman's comments, if you are consistent with regard to signs for the displacement and the force, the correct equation is F=-kx. The other would be better written as |F|=k|x|.
 

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