How Does a Motorcycle Exert Force Backward to Accelerate?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a motorcycle and rider, focusing on the forces exerted during acceleration. The problem specifies a mass of 245 kg, an acceleration of 3.50 m/s², and total resisting forces of 400 N due to friction and air resistance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of net force using the equation Fnet = ma + Ffriction. There is uncertainty regarding the relevance of speed in the calculations, with some questioning whether it affects the outcome.

Discussion Status

Participants are examining the components of net force and the role of friction and air resistance. One participant has provided a correction regarding the equation used, emphasizing Newton's second law. The conversation is ongoing, with different interpretations of the problem being explored.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of real-life implications of speed on drag and torque, though it is noted that the given values for drag and friction are sufficient for the calculations at hand.

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Homework Statement



A 245 kg motorcyle & rider can produce an acceleration of 3.50 m/s sq while traveling at 25 m/s. At that speed, the forces resisting motion (friction & air) total 400 N. What force does the motorcycle exert backward to produce it's acceleration?

Homework Equations



Force = mass x acceleration + Friction motion


The Attempt at a Solution



Fnet = (m x a) + Ffr
= (245 x 3.5) + 400N
= 1257.5N

This needs a 2nd look. I'm not sure if the speed matters since we have mass and acceleration values. Please take a look, I'll stand by.
 
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whereitsbeen said:

Homework Statement



A 245 kg motorcyle & rider can produce an acceleration of 3.50 m/s sq while traveling at 25 m/s. At that speed, the forces resisting motion (friction & air) total 400 N. What force does the motorcycle exert backward to produce it's acceleration?

Homework Equations



Force = mass x acceleration + Friction motion

The Attempt at a Solution



Fnet = (m x a) + Ffr
= (245 x 3.5) + 400N
= 1257.5N

This needs a 2nd look. I'm not sure if the speed matters since we have mass and acceleration values. Please take a look, I'll stand by.
Your equation is wrong.

Fnet = ma

Always. That is Newton's 2nd Law.

So, the question is, what does Fnet consist of? It is the sum of all horizontal forces on the motorcycle. There's the force from the road on the tires, which is forwards, and then there's friction + air drag, which is backwards.

These two have to add up to the net force, which you already know.
 
The speed "matters" to the real-life situation in the sense that, at a different speed, the amount of drag would be different (and amount of torque the engine could produce would be different).

However, it doesn't matter to you, since it doesn't affect the actual calculations in any way. You are given what the drag + friction is at this speed.
 
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