How Does Boyle's Law Explain Gas Behavior in a Vacuum?

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This discussion centers on the implications of Boyle's Law in a thought experiment involving a balloon in a perfect vacuum. Participants concluded that while the balloon's radius may initially expand, it will not do so indefinitely due to the tension in the rubber material. The internal pressure of the gas will eventually equal the tension of the balloon, halting further expansion. Additionally, the behavior of gas molecules in a vacuum is characterized by random motion, which influences the expansion rate of the gas cloud.

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Trying to wrap my head around this thought experiment and I was hoping to get some expert advice on this:

Take a balloon made out of a rubber that can stretch infinitely thin without breaking blown up to normal balloon size. Next put it in an infinitely large, perfect vacuum and let it go.

If my head is wrapped around this correctly, the balloons radius should expand at a constant rate indefinitely should it not?
 
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DNMock said:
Trying to wrap my head around this thought experiment and I was hoping to get some expert advice on this:

Take a balloon made out of a rubber that can stretch infinitely thin without breaking blown up to normal balloon size. Next put it in an infinitely large, perfect vacuum and let it go.

If my head is wrapped around this correctly, the balloons radius should expand at a constant rate indefinitely should it not?
Not unless the balloon material has some magical property that prevents it from providing tension. At some point the pressure inside the balloon will be equal to the inward pressure created by the tension in the rubber and the expansion will stop. This is not a free expansion.

If a gas is allowed to expand freely in a vacuum, the motion of the gas molecules would be random. I don't think the radius of the gas cloud would expand at a constant rate. The radius increase would follow statistical laws for random motion.

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Andrew Mason said:
Not unless the balloon material has some magical property that prevents it from providing tension. At some point the pressure inside the balloon will be equal to the inward pressure created by the tension in the rubber and the expansion will stop. This is not a free expansion.

If a gas is allowed to expand freely in a vacuum, the motion of the gas molecules would be random. I don't think the radius of the gas cloud would expand at a constant rate. The radius increase would follow statistical laws for random motion.

AM

Ah, ok that makes proper sense to me. I felt like it should slow down over time but couldn't figure out why, but it's the tension of the balloon itself. That makes sense now, thank you for helping my head pass it's brain fart :)
 

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