How Does Changing Wavelength Affect the Central Peak in Single-Slit Diffraction?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of changing the wavelength of light on the central peak in single-slit diffraction, with references to both single-slit and two-slit interference patterns. Participants explore the relationship between wavelength, peak width, and interference fringes, questioning the accuracy of textbook answers.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that decreasing the wavelength would decrease the width of the central peak while keeping the number of interference fringes constant, based on the equation relating wavelength and angle.
  • Another participant points out that their textbook claims the width of the peak and the number of fringes remain unchanged with varying wavelength, which they find counterintuitive.
  • Some participants express confusion regarding the combined effects of single-slit and two-slit interference, questioning how these effects could remain independent of wavelength.
  • A participant references a paper, asserting that the wave-particle duality framework complicates the understanding of these phenomena.
  • Mathematical expressions are provided to illustrate the relationship between wavelength and the diffraction pattern, emphasizing that the width is proportional to wavelength under certain conditions.
  • One participant clarifies that the question pertains to the intensity of the central peak at zero angle, which they argue remains unchanged regardless of wavelength.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the effects of wavelength on the central peak and the interference pattern. There is no consensus on whether the textbook's claims are accurate, and confusion persists about the implications of wave-particle duality.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in their understanding of the combined effects of single-slit and multi-slit patterns, as well as the implications of wave-particle duality on their interpretations.

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In my physics book, one of the basic quick quizzes checkpoints asks what happens to the central peak in a diffraction envelope when you decrease the wavelength of light (from 650 nm to 450 nm, for reference).

My understanding is that the width of the peak would decrease, while the number of interference fringes would remain the same.
This is because the number of interference fringes depends only on the width of the slit and the distance of the screen based on m=d/a.
The width of the peak decreases, because using the equation asin(theta)=m(lambda), m and a are constant, while changing lambda would change theta, thereby changing the height of the central maximum. The first order minimum would be closer to the center with a smaller wavelength.

However, my book says the answer is that the width of the peak remains the same (along with the number of interference fringes).

This seems inherently wrong. Based on my research on the internet, as well as the interactive picture my book included with the question, I feel like the publishers made a mistake in the answer. Clearly, wavelength affects the diffraction pattern. Right? Please help. My brain hurts.
 
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oops, this question is regarding the combined effects of two-slit and single-slit interference, not just single slit. That makes a pretty big difference, but I am still pretty confused. Any help would be appreciate.
 
Thanks, Bill. I don't really see two much in there that answers my question. Here is where I am having trouble grasping the supposed easy question in my book. Interference pattern depends on wavelength. Diffraction pattern depends on wavelength. How does the combined effects not depend on wavelength. This seems counter-intuitive.
 
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dreaan said:
Thanks, Bill. I don't really see two much in there that answers my question. Here is where I am having trouble grasping the supposed easy question in my book. Interference pattern depends on wavelength. Diffraction pattern depends on wavelength. How does the combined effects not depend on wavelength. This seems counter-intuitive.

You are stuck in the wave-particle paradigm by thinking in terms of wavelength. Forget it. My link gives the correct analysis.

That said, in that paradigm obviously the interference pattern will depend on wavelength so your objection leaves me scratching my head.

Thanks
Bill
 
I'm sorry, but that article does not make sense to me. This is supposedly a somewhat simple understanding in my introductory quantum physics class.
 

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dreaan said:
I'm sorry, but that article does not make sense to me. This is supposedly a somewhat simple understanding in my introductory quantum physics class.

As far as I can see that's purely a classical wave analysis.

What I am saying is this wave-particle duality stuff is simply a way-station to the correct theory which doesn't really have it. The link I gave is the correct explanation.

But as a wave analysis I can't see anything wrong or what your issue is.

Thanks
Bill
 
The chapter I am studying primarily has to do with wave analysis. My problem is that based on the information I have learned, with a combination of single-slit and multi-slit pattern, if the wavelength is decreased, the central maximum should also decrease in width. The interference fringes should also decrease in width, although there are the same number of them within the central diffraction envelop. My book asks this question. It says the answer is that everything remains the same. I just don't see how this could be the correct, based on the equations provided.
 
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So if the width of the peak remains constant and the number of fringes remains constant, what WOULD change if the wavelength changes. Surely something has to. I am wondering if there is a mistake in the book.
 
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dreaan said:
So if the width of the peak remains constant and the number of fringes remains constant, what WOULD change if the wavelength changes. Surely something has to. I am wondering if there is a mistake in the book.

I would need to go through the book.

But if the wavelength changes what doesn't change is getting only single particle hits - of course the pattern changes with particle wavelength.

But I want to emphasise this wave-particle duality is a crock. Its not the real explanation.

Thanks
Bill
 
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okay, thank you, I appreciate your help. based on what I have researched online, their answer is incorrect, which is even more frustrating. I will go back and try to comprehend the article you sent me after my final exams.
 
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The single-slit interference pattern in Fraunhofer observation is described as the Fourier transform of the opening, i.e., the amplitude is given by
$$A(x) \propto \int_{-d/2}^{d/2} \mathrm{d} y \exp(\mathrm{i} k x y/L)=\frac{L}{\mathrm{i} k x}[\exp[\mathrm{i} k x d/(2L)]-\exp[\mathrm{i} k x d/(2L)]]=\frac{2L}{kx} \sin \left (\frac{k x d}{2L} \right ).$$
The width is usually taken as the distance of the first minimum relative to the main maximum at ##x=0##, which is thus found by
##\frac{\Delta x k d}{2L}=\pi \; \Rightarrow \; \Delta x=\frac{2 \pi L}{k d}=\frac{\lambda L}{d}.##
This shows that the width is proportional to the wave length ##\lambda## and the distance from the slit to the screen and inversely proportional to the width of the slit (the approximations involved require ##\lambda \ll d \ll L##.

For more details, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffraction#Single-slit_diffraction
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffraction_formalism
 
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dreaan,
here is the answer:
what you are saying is correct for the width (horizontally). BUT the question is asking about the central peak which is intensity at theta=0 (width vertically!, there is no angle so it has nothing to do with wavelength)
Of course the central peak remains the same!
 
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heehe, thank you. this question will forever haunt me as i missed a similar question on the final exam last semester, worth about 1/3 of the points, dropping me a whole letter grade and even more in invaluable self confidence, haaha. at least i know now. pain is the greatest teacher.
 

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