How Does Friction Affect the Acceleration and Tension in a Two-Block System?

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The discussion focuses on a two-block system where block m (0.500 kg) rests on block M (2.50 kg), with tension T (7.00 N) applied at a 25-degree angle. Participants analyze the acceleration of the system, initially calculating it as 2.11 m/s², but debate whether this value should only apply to block M or the combined system. The role of friction is emphasized, as it prevents block m from sliding, leading to confusion about the acceleration calculations. Participants suggest recalculating the acceleration considering both blocks together, as the system's dynamics depend on the interaction between the blocks. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding how tension and friction affect the overall motion of the blocks.
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Homework Statement


A block of mass m = 0.500 kg rests on top of a block of mass M = 2.50 kg which is on the
floor. A string attached to the block of mass M is pulled so that its tension is T = 7.00 N
at a 25.0o angle to the horizontal as shown. The blocks move together across the
horizontal surface. The coefficient of static friction at the surface between the blocks is
μs = 0.410. There is no friction at the surface between block M and the floor.

a) What is the acceleration of the two-block system?

b) What is magnitude and direction of the total force (combination of normal force
and frictional force) on block m due to block M?

c) The tension T is now increased - what is the maximum tension, Tmax, with which
the string can be pulled such that the blocks continue to move together (i.e. that
the block of mass m does not start to slide on top of the block of mass M)?

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I solved part a and got 2.11 m/s^2 but i have no clue about part b and c. please help me.
 
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For part b): what is happening to block m?
 
PeroK said:
For part b): what is happening to block m?
Since there is friction, block m is not moving. Only M is moving.?
 
When the question says "the blocks move together ...", how do you interpret that?
 
PeroK said:
When the question says "the blocks move together ...", how do you interpret that?
An analysis that comes to mind is pulling a sled with a child on it...except there is no incline
 
Is block m accelerating?
 
PeroK said:
Is block m accelerating?
no
 
dkajsdk said:
no

You might want to revise your answer to part a), where I imagine you calculated the acceleration of the two block system. You should recalculate for acceleration of mass M only?

How did you get 2.11m/s/s if block m doesn't move?
 
PeroK said:
You might want to revise your answer to part a), where I imagine you calculated the acceleration of the two block system. You should recalculate for acceleration of mass M only?

How did you get 2.11m/s/s if block m doesn't move?
I found the x and y components of the tension with the angle. Since acceleration is horizontal and not vertical, only the x component is considered. I used Newton's 2nd Law, 7cos25=ma, and when I solved for a, I got 2.11m/s^2. This is only for mass M (the one without friction). Was I supposed to include both blocks? If mass m is not moving, then shouldn't it be fine that we only consider block M?
 
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PeroK said:
You might want to revise your answer to part a), where I imagine you calculated the acceleration of the two block system. You should recalculate for acceleration of mass M only?

How did you get 2.11m/s/s if block m doesn't move?
I reckon cos25 is about 0.9, so the horizontal force is about 6.3N.

That would accelerate block M - mass 2.5kg - at about 2.6 m/s/s.

Or, it would accelerate the system of block M and m - combined mass 3kg - at about 2.1m/s/s.

So, how did you get 2.1m/s/s assuming only block M moves?
 
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