How Does High Temperature Affect Boson Number Density in Quantum Statistics?

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The discussion revolves around the number density of bosons in the context of quantum statistics, particularly focusing on the scenario where the temperature is significantly greater than the chemical potential and mass. Participants are exploring the implications of this condition on the mathematical formulation of the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the number density expression by manipulating integrals and applying the condition T >> μ. They explore the implications of dropping terms in the integral and question the validity of this step. Other participants engage by questioning the assumptions made regarding the mass term in the square root and suggest alternative formulations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the assumptions involved in the derivation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the approximation of terms in the integral, but there is no explicit consensus on the reasoning behind dropping the mass term.

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Participants are operating under the assumption that T is much greater than both μ and m, which influences their reasoning and the mathematical manipulations they are considering. There is an ongoing exploration of how these assumptions affect the validity of the steps taken in the derivation.

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Homework Statement


Show that the number density for bosons if T (temperature) >>μ (chemical energy) is:
n= \frac{ζ(3)}{\pi^{2}} gT^{3}

(T>>m too)

Homework Equations



n= \frac{g}{2 \pi^{2}} \int_{m}^{∞} f(E) (E^{2}-m^{2})^{1/2} EdE
f(E)= \frac{1}{e^{\frac{E-μ}{T}} -1}
ζ(s)= \frac{1}{Γ(s)} \int_{0}^{∞} dx \frac{x^{s-1}}{e^{x}-1}

The Attempt at a Solution



I am taking:
n= \frac{g}{2 \pi^{2}} \int_{m}^{∞} \frac{1}{e^{\frac{E-μ}{T}} -1} (E^{2}-m^{2})^{1/2} EdE

Then use μ<<T to drop the part of it in the exponential

n= \frac{g}{2 \pi^{2}} \int_{m}^{∞} \frac{1}{e^{\frac{E}{T}} -1} (E^{2}-m^{2})^{1/2} EdE

If now I make a change of variables, x= \frac{E}{T} I think I'll get something similar to the definition of the zeta function... By this I have:
x= \frac{E}{T},
dE= T dx,
E^{2}= x^{2}T^{2}
and E= x T
The integration limits will be: x_{1}= \frac{m}{T}=0 and the upper one will be ∞...

n= \frac{g}{2 \pi^{2}} \int_{0}^{∞} \frac{1}{e^{x} -1} (x^{2}T^{2}-m^{2})^{1/2} xT^{2}dx

Now I can see that dropping m^{2} from the square root would give me the desired answer... However I don't know why can I?
alright m<<T, but T also gets multiplied by the variable...
If I'd drop it:

n= \frac{g}{2 \pi^{2}} \int_{0}^{∞} \frac{1}{e^{x} -1} xT(1-\frac{m^{2}}{x^{2}T^{2}})^{1/2} xT^{2}dx

n= \frac{g}{2 \pi^{2}} \int_{0}^{∞} \frac{1}{e^{x} -1} x^{2} T^{3}dx

n= \frac{g}{2 \pi^{2}} ζ(3) Γ(3) T^{3}dx

Γ(3)= 2
and I get the right result...By the assumption I could drop m^2 from the square root...
 
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Do we have a question here?
 
-haha that was a good one Dauto, by the fact that on paper I had done it wrong, while here I did it right-
But yes, there's still a question on...
"Now I can see that dropping m2 from the square root would give me the desired answer... However I don't know why can I?alright m<<T, but T also gets multiplied by the variable..."

Could I instead do:
(x^{2}T^{2}-m^{2})^{1/2}= T (x^{2}- m^{2}/T^{2})^{1/2}= T x
?
 
Since T>>m, the distribution has most of its weight on values E>>m. Therefore E^2 - m^2 ~ E^2 as far as that integral is concerned.
 

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