How does subliminal messaging work?

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Subliminal messaging, particularly in music, raises questions about its effectiveness and mechanisms. The discussion highlights skepticism regarding its actual impact, with many participants agreeing that subliminal messages, such as those embedded in songs to encourage behaviors like quitting smoking, lack substantial evidence of efficacy. Instead, the concept of "priming" is introduced, which suggests that exposure to certain stimuli can influence responses without conscious awareness. For example, seeing or hearing a word can speed up recognition of related terms, demonstrating a form of subconscious influence. While some studies indicate that priming can affect behavior, the consensus is that traditional subliminal messaging does not work as commonly believed. The conversation also touches on the broader implications of subtle cues, such as colors and sounds, in influencing behavior, though these do not strictly fall under the category of subliminal messaging. Overall, the dialogue emphasizes the distinction between subliminal messaging and more scientifically supported psychological phenomena like priming.
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How does subliminal messaging work? I know in a video they would have one frame dedicated to it but you don't directly catch it. But how do they put stuff into music where you hear nothing? Like the music that is supposed to help someone stop smoking cigarettes.
 
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I had a friend who was big on making his own subliminal tapes. He recorded his own voice at low volumes while recording music at normal volumes.
 
Ok, I thought there was little bit more too it then that. Thanks.
 
zoobyshoe said:
There's a great deal of doubt that it works at all:

That was similar to my thought on this as well...the first question needs to be does it work, rather than how does it work.
 
zoobyshoe said:
There's a great deal of doubt that it works at all:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_message

My understanding from psych class is that it doesn't work in the way people usually think of.

However, there is something called "priming." If you see a word like "duck" and then are asked to read aloud a second word, you'll read "quack" faster than "bark". This is true even if the word "duck" is presented so quickly that you aren't aware of having seen it. You could even present the word "duck" aurally.

Some labs have lately been claiming evidence of more complex priming. For instance, if you spend some time thinking about your mother, you'll do better on a trivia came, supposedly because thinking about your mother makes you want to do well. A lot of this work has been done at Yale: http://www.yale.edu/psychology/FacInfo/Bargh.html.

There's a lot of evidence for it, so I supose it's true, but I still have trouble believing it. One of these days, I'll probably try to replicate some of those findings at my Web-based lab: http://coglanglab.org.

But as far as fitting in a message like "smoke less" into the background of a Mariah Carey song, I don't think there's evidence that it works.

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I'd have to agree with Ardalin. I believe there are also ways one can use subtle colour/light and sounds as just a basic stimulous that may provoke a certain general reaction in people. Fast Food restaurants supposedly use certain colour schemes that induce a desire to hurry up and leave though consciously we may only perceive the colours as cheerful and bright. I'm not sure if this would fall under subliminal messaging though.
 
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ardalin said:
My understanding from psych class is that it doesn't work in the way people usually think of.

However, there is something called "priming." If you see a word like "duck" and then are asked to read aloud a second word, you'll read "quack" faster than "bark". This is true even if the word "duck" is presented so quickly that you aren't aware of having seen it. You could even present the word "duck" aurally.

Some labs have lately been claiming evidence of more complex priming. For instance, if you spend some time thinking about your mother, you'll do better on a trivia came, supposedly because thinking about your mother makes you want to do well. A lot of this work has been done at Yale: http://www.yale.edu/psychology/FacInfo/Bargh.html.

There's a lot of evidence for it, so I supose it's true, but I still have trouble believing it. One of these days, I'll probably try to replicate some of those findings at my Web-based lab: http://coglanglab.org.

But as far as fitting in a message like "smoke less" into the background of a Mariah Carey song, I don't think there's evidence that it works.

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http://coglanglab.org

Yeah, I think priming is completely real and can be repeatedly demonstrated:

You ask "How do you pronounce F-O-L-K?"

People proceed to pronounce it.

Then you ask "What is the white part of an egg called?"

Most people say "Yolk!"


Doing this deliberately to someone constitutes manipulating them without their knowing it, which is what we fear about subliminal messaging, but the means is quite a bit different, so it's not what should be called "subliminal messaging".
 
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This topic got me to thinking about how to influence people's actions without Hollywood-style subliminal messaging. It turns out that it's pretty easy. Check out my post here:

http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/subliminal-messaging-14083.html
 
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