How Does the BCS Hamiltonian Describe Superconductivity?

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The discussion centers on the BCS Hamiltonian and its role in describing superconductivity, focusing on the interpretation of its terms, the procedure for deriving specific components, and the nature of interactions within the framework of BCS theory. Participants explore theoretical aspects, mathematical formulations, and conceptual clarifications related to superconductivity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Participants discuss the meaning of the creation operators \hat{a}^+_{\vec{p},\sigma} and their role in the BCS Hamiltonian.
  • There is a query about the procedure to derive terms \hat{H}_0, \hat{H}_2, and \delta\hat{H} from the BCS Hamiltonian.
  • Some participants propose that the first term in the Hamiltonian represents the kinetic energy of electrons, while the second part involves interactions, particularly focusing on the pairing of electrons with opposite momentum.
  • There is a challenge regarding the absence of products like \hat{a}^+_{\vec{p}\uparrow}\hat{a}^+_{\vec{p}\downarrow} in the context of Cooper pairs.
  • Discussion includes the significance of the interaction function V(p,p') and its implications for the formation of Cooper pairs, with some noting that the Hamiltonian alone does not reveal the presence of Cooper pairs without further analysis of V(p,p').
  • One participant suggests that the new Hamiltonian can be treated as an approximation to the original, distinguishing between kinetic energy and the creation of Cooper pairs.
  • A later reply references a source for further treatment of the topic, indicating that the discussion is rooted in established literature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various interpretations of the terms in the BCS Hamiltonian and the implications for superconductivity, with no clear consensus on the exact nature of the interactions or the derivation of specific terms. Multiple competing views remain regarding the understanding of Cooper pairs and the role of the interaction function.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of deriving the interaction function V(p,p') and its dependence on various factors, including phonon-electron interactions, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

Petar Mali
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\hat{H}_{BCS}=\sum_{\vec{p},\sigma}\epsilon(\vec{p})\hat{a}^+_{\vec{p},\sigma}\hat{a}_{\vec{p},\sigma}+\sum_{\vec{p},\vec{p}'}V(\vec{p},\vec{p}')\hat{a}^+_{\vec{p}\uparrow}\hat{a}^+_{-\vec{p}\downarrow}\hat{a}_{-\vec{p}'\downarrow}\hat{a}_{\vec{p}'\uparrow}


What is the meaning of the terms \hat{a}^+_{\vec{p}\uparrow},\hat{a}^+_{-\vec{p}\downarrow}... ?

If I work mean- field approximation

\hat{H}_{BCS}=\hat{H}_0+\hat{H}_2+\delta\hat{H}


What is the procedure to find terms \hat{H}_0, \hat{H}_2, \delta\hat{H}?
 
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And what is meaning of

\sum_{\vec{p},\sigma}\epsilon(\vec{p })\hat{a}^+_{\vec{p},\sigma}\hat{a}_{\vec{p},\sigma}

and second part of the Hamiltonian! Second part is some interraction.

Can I say that

\hat{a}^+_{\vec{p},\sigma}=\hat{a}^+_{\vec{p}}\hat{\xi}_{\sigma}?
 
The a's are creation operators (the one with the daggers). They create an electron with momentum p and spin up or down.

The usual procedure in BCS theory is to determine the V(p,p') dependence. You'll notice that the relevant contributions come from the V(p,-p) terms (which is the reason why electrons with opposite momentum are paired up).

Petar Mali said:
And what is meaning of

\sum_{\vec{p},\sigma}\epsilon(\vec{p })\hat{a}^+_{\vec{p},\sigma}\hat{a}_{\vec{p},\sigma}

and second part of the Hamiltonian! Second part is some interraction.

Can I say that

\hat{a}^+_{\vec{p},\sigma}=\hat{a}^+_{\vec{p}}\hat{\xi}_{\sigma}?

The first term can be seen as the energy carried by an electron. The summation over a^\dag a counts the number of electrons, and the epsilon is the energy packket carried by each electron. You can see view it as sort of a kinetic energy term.

You cannot make that replacement, since a^\dag is an operator which creates an electron with momentum p and spin sigma.
 
Thanks for you're answer. Just to ask in this product of four operators you have \hat{a}^+_{\vec{p}\uparrow} and \hat{a}^+_{-\vec{p}\downarrow} so

\hat{a}^+_{\vec{p}\uparrow}\hat{a}^+_{-\vec{p}\downarrow}

Why you don't have product of \hat{a}^+_{\vec{p}\uparrow} and \hat{a}^+_{\vec{p}\downarrow} so

\hat{a}^+_{\vec{p}\uparrow}\hat{a}^+_{\vec{p}\downarrow}


And I can't see when I look this Hamiltonian where are Cooper pairs?
 
You are summing over all values of p and p', so the sum over a^\dag_p a^\dag_{-p'} is the same as if you write down a^\dag_p a^\dag_{p'}. So the sum also includes the term you mention. It includes all possible pairs of momentum at this stage.

What's more important is the function V(p,p'). It's this formula that determines what the interaction energy is between two electrons - one carrying momentum p and one carrying momentum p'. What makes BCS theory so special, is that you can show that the function is peaked around V(p,-p). I.e. the binding energy between two electrons carrying opposite momentum is the largest contributions to the system.

Why this is so: well, you have to look up what the exact shape is of V(p,-p) (it included integrating over the degrees of freedom from the phonon-electron interaction -- very complicated stuff). So no, you cannot see from this Hamiltonian why there are Cooper pairs. You need the exact shape of V(p,p)
 
You wanted to say that Hamiltonian I wrote is the same as the Hamiltonian

<br /> \hat{H}_{BCS}=\sum_{\vec{p},\sigma}\epsilon(\vec{p })\hat{a}^+_{\vec{p},\sigma}\hat{a}_{\vec{p},\sigma}+\sum_{\vec{p},\vec{p}&#039;}\hat{a}^+_{\vec{p}\uparrow}\hat{a}^+_{\vec{p}\downarrow}\hat{a}_{\vec{p&#039;}\uparrow}\hat{a}_{\vec{p}&#039;\downarrow}

Can I treat this like

first sum - the kinetic energy of electrons
second sum - creation Cooper pair in state with impulse \vec{p} and anihilation Cooper pair in state with impulse \vec{p}&#039;
 
Yes, this new Hamiltonian is an approximation to the original one.

For a treatment on this see Tinkham - Introduction to superconductivity, chapter 3
 
Is it easy way to get \hat{H}_0,\hat{H}_2,\delta\hat{H}

where \hat{H}_0+\hat{H}_2=\hat{H}_{MF} ?
 

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