How does the Higgs field interact with black holes?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the interaction of the Higgs field with black holes, particularly around the event horizon and the implications of extreme gravity on the field's properties. Participants explore theoretical aspects and the current limitations of understanding in this area.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the Higgs field exists inside the event horizon of a black hole and how extreme gravity might affect it.
  • There is a suggestion that the Higgs field should be present everywhere, including inside black holes, but the lack of empirical verification complicates this assertion.
  • One participant proposes that the properties of the Higgs field might change due to the warping of space inside a black hole.
  • A later reply raises a fundamental question about the nature of interactions and what causes them, indicating a deeper inquiry into the topic.
  • Another participant references an article discussing the misconceptions surrounding the relationship between the Higgs field and gravity, emphasizing that the Higgs field does not directly relate to black holes despite their gravitational effects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the behavior of the Higgs field in the context of black holes, with no consensus reached on how or if the field interacts with black holes.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations of current theoretical frameworks, particularly the lack of unification between quantum field theory and gravity, which affects the understanding of the Higgs field's behavior in extreme conditions.

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What happens to the higgs field around the event horizon of a black hole, or is this currently unknown? Does the higgs field permeate inside the event horizon? Can extreme gravity affect the field in some way by changing its properties?
 
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It is everywhere, so it should exist inside black holes as well, but we don't know and we cannot check. The lack of a proper unification of quantum field theory and gravity is another issue.
 
mfb said:
It is everywhere, so it should exist inside black holes as well, but we don't know and we cannot check. The lack of a proper unification of quantum field theory and gravity is another issue.

I would imagine that it would be changed since space is heavily warped inside a black hole.
 
Perhaps the question should be, what causes the effect of an interaction in the first place?
 
serp777 said:
I would imagine that it would be changed since space is heavily warped inside a black hole.
You might want to read this article to understand that mfb 'answered' your question with pointing out the lack of unification ...

http://profmattstrassler.com/2012/10/15/why-the-higgs-and-gravity-are-unrelated/

"The guess that the Higgs has something to do with gravity is natural for a non-expert, but I am afraid it is naive; it comes from misunderstanding both
  1. the Higgs field, which is not universal: it gives masses to most of the known elementary particles but not to the Higgs particle itself, and not to protons and neutrons, dark matter (most likely), or black holes,
  2. and Einstein’s gravity, which is universal and has to do with energy and momentum but not mass directly, and most certainly does pull on protons and neutrons, dark matter and black holes even though their masses don’t come entirely from the Higgs field."
 

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