How Does Thermodynamics Explain Power Generation in Motorcycle Engines?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the thermodynamic principles involved in power generation within motorcycle engines, specifically focusing on the adiabatic expansion process following combustion. Participants are examining the parameters involved in calculating average power during this expansion at a specified engine speed.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to apply the work done in an adiabatic process formula while questioning the determination of final pressure and volume. There is also confusion regarding the definition of terms such as "the volume of the mixture at the bottom of the stroke." Some participants express a lack of familiarity with motorcycle engines and their components.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications and resources to aid understanding. Some have identified potential misunderstandings regarding the assumptions made in the problem, while others are exploring the implications of these assumptions on their calculations.

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There is a noted lack of familiarity with motorcycle engine mechanics among some participants, which may affect their ability to engage with the problem fully. Additionally, there is uncertainty about the correct interpretation of the expansion time relative to the total cycle.

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In a motorcycle engine, after combustion occurs in the top of the cylinder, the piston is forced down as the mixture of gaseous products undergoes an adiabatic expansion. Find the average power involved in this expansion when the engine is running at 4000 rpm, assuming that the gauge pressure immediately after combustion is 15.0 atm, the initial volume is 50.0 cm^3, and the volume of the mixture at the bottom of the stroke is 250 cm^3. Assume that the gases are diatomic and that the time involved in the expansion is one-half that of the total cycle.

I know work done in adiabatic process is
W=\frac{p_2 V_2 - p_1 V_1}{\gamma - 1}

and for adiabatic process,
p_1 V_1^{\gamma} = p_2 V_2^{\gamma}

so V_1 = 50.0 \hbox{ cm^3}, p_1 = 15.0 \hbox{ atm},
\gamma = \frac{7}{5}

but what is the final volume V_2, which I need to determine p_2?
 
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Kelvin said:
... the initial volume is 50.0 cm^3, and the volume of the mixture at the bottom of the stroke is 250 cm^3.
Isn't the final volume given?
 
actually, I don't even know what a motorcycle is, and how the cylinder looks like ...


what is meant by "the volume of the mixture at the bottom of the stroke" ?
 
the volume of the mixture at the bottom of the stroke is the final Volume

This is a motorcycle :bugeye:
 
sorry, I made typo mistakes
I mean I don't know how "motorcycle engine" works, and how does the "cyclinder" looks like...
 
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so the assumption that "the expansion is one-half that of the total cycle" is wrong? it should be 1/4 ?
 
oh...I've found the answer :D
so...let me redo the problem
 
oh I got it correct
thanks a lot
my "picture of engine" is completely wrong ...
 

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