How does these two equations relate?

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The discussion focuses on understanding the relationship between the coefficient of volume expansion and the coefficient of linear expansion through calculus. The user is confused about how the derivative dV/dL leads to the expression 3L^2 when considering the volume of a cube, V = L^3. They explore the concept of derivatives, specifically how dy/dx for y = x^3 results in 3x^2, and relate this to their volume expansion problem. The conversation emphasizes the manipulation of small quantities in calculus and how these principles apply to engineering contexts. Ultimately, the user gains clarity on the mathematical relationships involved.
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Hi, I'm in first year engineering and I have trouble understanding where this formula comes from in determining the relationship between the coefficient of volume expansion and the coeff of linear expansion.

dV=(dV/dL)*dL = 3L^2*dL

now i know that they changed the dV in the brackets to dL^3, but then I don't understand how dL^3/dL became 3L^2? Is there a part of calculus I am missing? does it have to do with a rate of change divided by a rate of change?

Thanks!
 
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Can you express V as a function of L?
 
Volume = L^3, for a cube? i think that's the relationship there
 
Zerius said:
Volume = L^3, for a cube? i think that's the relationship there

What is dV/dL?
 
If y = x^3, what is dy/dx?
 
then it is 3x^2, that's would be dy/dx. :S how about dX^3/dX? is it the same? OH or is it like dy/dx is the same as d/dX so doesn't matter what it is at the top?
 
Right, dy/dx = 3x^2.

Now treat dy and dx as symbols small quantities that can be manipulated like other quantities.

Multiplying both sides of dy/dx = 3x^2 by dx gives?
 
umm dy = (3x^2)dx?
 
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Zerius said:
umm dy = (3x^2)dx?

Right. Now change y to V and x to L throughout.

Even though engineers and physicists routinely do these types of manipulations, they make pure mathematicians cringe.
 
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>.< ok that makes more sense now. I will try to hatch this in my brain. Thanks George Jones!
 
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