How Does Thrust Force Function in Propulsion?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of thrust force in propulsion, exploring its definition, implications in aerodynamics, and methods for calculating it. Participants engage in both conceptual explanations and practical applications related to thrust in various contexts, such as rockets and jet engines.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines thrust as a force resulting from Newton's third law, where expelling mass creates an equal and opposite force on the rocket.
  • Another participant describes thrust as the forward force necessary to overcome drag and achieve motion, while also mentioning lift as a desirable force in aerodynamics.
  • A suggestion is made to experience thrust firsthand by observing jet engines during a commercial flight, highlighting the practical understanding of thrust.
  • A participant inquires about the calculation of thrust force and the equations involved.
  • Another participant recommends using Google and Wikipedia for finding formulas related to thrust, while cautioning about the reliability of information on Wikipedia.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic principles of thrust and its relationship to other forces like drag and lift. However, the discussion includes varying levels of detail and approaches to understanding and calculating thrust, indicating that multiple perspectives are present.

Contextual Notes

There are references to practical experiences and resources for further information, but no specific mathematical steps or equations are provided within the discussion itself.

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What is thrust??

can someone please give me a brief explanation about the thrust force?
 
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In short, it is Newton's third law. If you expel mass from, say, a rocket nozzle, the exhaust has a certain momentum. The rocket feels a force that is equal and opposite this.
 
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Thrust is the forward force that impels you to go faster or to keep going in the intended direction. Thrust is usually desireable.

Drag is the backward force that slows you down. Drag is usually undesireable.

If you are talking aerodynamics then lift is the crosswise force that keeps you in the air. Lift is usually desireable.

You need thrust to offset drag so that you can have motion and lift.
 


sorry for the late reply and thanks for your answers
 


raw 653, Just book a commercial flight on a jetliner, and get yourself a window seat just behind the wing. This gives you a great view of the nozzles of the jet engines. You can imagine the "thrust" of the exhaust gasses during takeoff, for example. I promise you that you will understand (and feel) what is "thrust".
 


i`ll try to do that next time :)
 


how about calculating the Thrust force? how can you do it and what are the equations used?
 


Google is our friend, and Wiki is, well, an extremely important and valuable encyclopedia that you find using Google. You should become intimate (yes, intimate)with both of them. One caution: sometimes Wiki has mistaken/wrong information: use it with care and verify everything you read there.

This Wiki page has all the formulas for calculating the thrust force:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrust

Cheers,
Bobbywhy
 

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