How Far Can the Hare Let the Tortoise Approach Before Resuming the Race?

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The discussion revolves around a race scenario between a hare and a tortoise, where the hare runs at 8.00 m/s and the tortoise at 0.200 m/s over a 1.00 km course. The hare stops after covering 0.800 km to tease the tortoise, prompting a calculation of how close the tortoise can get before the hare resumes running. The initial calculations provided by the user were incorrect, leading to confusion about the time each animal takes to finish the race. Correcting the approach involves recognizing that the tortoise moves steadily without stopping, and the hare's time to finish should be used to determine how far the tortoise can advance during that period. Ultimately, the tortoise can approach 5.00 meters from the finish line before the hare resumes the race.
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Homework Statement



Kind of wordy, please bear with me:

A hare and a tortoise compete in a rase over a course 1.00 km long. The tortoise crawls straight at its maximum speed of 0.200m/s. The hare runs 8.00m/s for 0.800 km and stops to tease the tortoise. How close to the goal can the hare let the tortoise approach before resuming the race?

Assume both animals move steadily at their respective speeds.

Homework Equations



xf=1/2(Vi + Vf)*t

The Attempt at a Solution



So I used the above equation. I figure, tehy have 0.200km left to go after the hare stops. So I transfer .200km to m, and plug the numbers into the above equation to find out how long it would take the rabbit to get to the finish from there. I did the same for the turtle.

200=1/2(0+8.00)*t t=50s (rabbit)
200=1/2(0+.200)*t t=2000s (turtle)

So I saw it was a difference of 1950, so I decided to use the same equation to see how many meters the turtle could cover in 1950s, which would be how far the rabbit could afford to have the turtle get.

xf = 1/2(0+0.200)1500s xf=195m = 0.195km

Doesn't look right. Any suggestions?
 
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Aerosion said:

Homework Statement



Kind of wordy, please bear with me:

A hare and a tortoise compete in a rase over a course 1.00 km long. The tortoise crawls straight at its maximum speed of 0.200m/s. The hare runs 8.00m/s for 0.800 km and stops to tease the tortoise. How close to the goal can the hare let the tortoise approach before resuming the race?

Assume both animals move steadily at their respective speeds.

Homework Equations



xf=1/2(Vi + Vf)*t


The Attempt at a Solution



So I used the above equation. I figure, tehy have 0.200km left to go after the hare stops. So I transfer .200km to m, and plug the numbers into the above equation to find out how long it would take the rabbit to get to the finish from there. I did the same for the turtle.

200=1/2(0+8.00)*t t=50s (rabbit)
200=1/2(0+.200)*t t=2000s (turtle)

So I saw it was a difference of 1950, so I decided to use the same equation to see how many meters the turtle could cover in 1950s, which would be how far the rabbit could afford to have the turtle get.

xf = 1/2(0+0.200)1500s xf=195m = 0.195km

Doesn't look right. Any suggestions?
the equation you need is the position function

X =X_o +V_ot + \frac{1}{2}at^2

though you're not given acceleration for the rabbit so i don't know.

and the equation for the tortoise is

X = V_ot

because you don't mention that the tortoise stops.
 
Only the rabbit has .2 km left. Your indicating that the turtle has .2km left when the rabbit does.

You want to find out how many s the rabbit will need to get to the finish line, then how many km away from the finish line that many seconds is for the turtle (based on his speed).

Then you have to find a difference between two positions. Which ones do you think?
 
Pythagorean said:
Only the rabbit has .2 km left. Your indicating that the turtle has .2km left when the rabbit does.

You want to find out how many s the rabbit will need to get to the finish line, then how many km away from the finish line that many seconds is for the turtle (based on his speed).

Then you have to find a difference between two positions. Which ones do you think?

Oh oh oh...okay, I already have how many seconds the rabbit needs to get to the finish line in .2km (50s, from above).

I should use xf=(1/2)(Vi+Vf)t, right? (1/2)(0+0.200m/s)*50s = 5.00m.

This seems more correct. If it is, thanks.
 
Aerosion said:
Oh oh oh...okay, I already have how many seconds the rabbit needs to get to the finish line in .2km (50s, from above).

I should use xf=(1/2)(Vi+Vf)t, right? (1/2)(0+0.200m/s)*50s = 5.00m.

This seems more correct. If it is, thanks.

the turtle never stops, his average velocity is the .2m/s not \frac{1}{2}(0+.200\frac{m}{s})
 
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