How far does the center of mass lie from the center of the earth?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the center of mass between the Earth and the Moon, given their masses and the distance separating them. Participants are exploring the application of the center of mass formula and the significance of reference points in the calculation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand how to apply the center of mass equation, specifically the meanings of x1 and x2 in relation to chosen reference points. There are questions about the appropriateness of selecting different points along the line connecting the Earth and Moon.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarity on the setup of the problem and the implications of their choices for reference points. Some guidance has been offered regarding the selection of x = 0 at the center of the Earth for convenience, but confusion remains about the arbitrary nature of this choice.

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Participants express difficulty with the textbook's explanations and the conceptual understanding of the center of mass calculation, indicating a need for clearer definitions and examples.

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The Earth and moon are separated by a center-to-center distance of 3.85x10^8m. The mass of the Earth is 5.98x10^24kg and that of the moon is 7.35x10^22kg. How far does the center of mass lie from the center of the earth?

I know you have to use the equation
Xcm=m1x1+m2x2/m1+m2

I don't know what x1 or x2 and i am not exactly sure what you measure x1 and x2 from and that is probably why i can't figure out how to use the equation.
 
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rmarkatos said:
The Earth and moon are separated by a center-to-center distance of 3.85x10^8m. The mass of the Earth is 5.98x10^24kg and that of the moon is 7.35x10^22kg. How far does the center of mass lie from the center of the earth?

I know you have to use the equation
Xcm=m1x1+m2x2/m1+m2

I don't know what x1 or x2 and i am not exactly sure what you measure x1 and x2 from and that is probably why i can't figure out how to use the equation.
Draw a line through the Earth and the moon. Pick any point you want on that line to call x = 0. Then do your calculation. When you find the CM, find the distance from there to the center of the earth. Some choices for x = 0 are more convenient than others, but you are free to make any choice you want.
 
the line you drawn is in between the Earth and moon? and you pick a point that is on line in between the moon and earth?
 
I really do not understand what you mean by that, my textbook does not do a good job of explaining it
 
rmarkatos said:
the line you drawn is in between the Earth and moon? and you pick a point that is on line in between the moon and earth?
The point you pick on the line is completely arbitrary. In this problem you are asked to find how far the center of mass is from the center of the earth, so a convenient choice would be the make x = 0 the center of the earth. That choice also makes the calculation a bit simpler than it would be for most other choices. x1 and x2 are the displacements (distance and + or - direction) of m1 and m2 from the point you choose to call x = 0.
 

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