How Fast Are Rockets Moving at Moon's Orbit?

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Two rockets are launched from Earth's surface at speeds of 17 km/s and 22 km/s, and the discussion focuses on determining their speeds when they reach the moon's orbit. The conservation of energy equation is applied, but initial attempts yield the same speeds as when launched, indicating a misunderstanding of the variables involved. It's clarified that the radius used in calculations should not be zero; instead, it should represent the Earth's radius for the initial position and the combined distance to the moon for the final position. The importance of consistent radius values in the equation is emphasized to avoid undefined expressions. The discussion concludes with a realization of the correct approach to calculating the speeds at the moon's orbit.
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Homework Statement


Two rockets are launched from Earth's surface, one at 17 km/s and the other at 22 km/s. How fast is each moving when it crosses the moon's orbit?


Homework Equations


Kf + Uf= K0 + U0
0.5mvf^2 -GMm/R = 0.5mv0^2 - GMm/R


The Attempt at a Solution


So I attempted to use the equation above, using the Earth's mass and the Earth's radius, It didn't work, my speeds came out to be exactly 17 and 22 just like from the start. I'm going to say that the radius of the moon and the mass of the moon comes into play here. Can someone help, with perhaps a better equation?
 
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Radius in this case the distance from M, and is different on each side of the equation. So it's R_1 and R_2. You could use the center of the Earth or the surface of the Earth as the origin, as long as you are consistent. the surface is probably easier. So the radius at the start is 0. And the radius at the moon is the distance from the Earth to the moon. Ignore the actual moon. it's not important here.

You should be able to handle it from here.
 
how can the radius be 0, the radius in my equation is in the denominator. it would make 1 part of the expression undefined
 
nvm i figured it out, but I am going to correct your response. The radius is NOT 0, but instead the raidus of the earth, while on the other side of the equation, it's the radius of the Earth + the distance to the moon.
 
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