How High Do Colliding Masses Reach in a Frictionless Bowl?

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In a frictionless spherical bowl, a small mass m1 starts at a height of h = ½ R and slides down to collide elastically with a larger mass m2, which is three times the mass of m1. The initial potential energy of m1 converts to kinetic energy at the bottom, allowing for calculations of velocities before and after the collision. Using conservation of momentum and kinetic energy, the velocities v1 and v2 can be expressed in terms of gravitational acceleration g and the radius R of the bowl. The heights reached by both masses after the collision can be derived from their respective velocities. The discussion emphasizes applying conservation laws to solve for the heights of the masses post-collision.
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A small mass m1 slides in a completely frictionless spherical bowl. m1 starts at rest at height h = ½ R above the bottom of the bowl. When it reaches the bottom of the bowl it strikes a mass m2, where m2 = 3m1, in a completely elastic collision.

a)find height of mass 2 after colision

b)find height of mass 1 after colision

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m1g(.5R) = .5m1v1o2...v1o = (gR).5

m1v1o[/SUB = m1v1 + m2v2...m1v1o[/SUB = m1v1 + 3m1v2...(gR).5 = v1 + 3v2...
v1 = (gR).5 - 3v2
v2 = ((gR).5-v1)/3

a) .5m2v22 = m2gh... .5(((gR).5-v1)/3)2 = gh...hm_2 = (((gR).5-v1)/3)2 /2g

b).5m1v22 = m1gh... .5((gR)2-3v2)2 = gh...h = ((gR).5-3v2)2/2g)
 

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joemama69 said:

The Attempt at a Solution



m1g(.5R) = .5m1v1o2...v1o = (gR).5

m1v1o = m1v1 + m2v2...m1v1o = m1v1 + 3m1v2...(gR).5 = v1 + 3v2...
Okay so far. At this point you can use conservation of kinetic energy for the elastic collision, and get a second equation relating v1 and v2. From there, you can express v1 and v2 in terms of g and R.

v1 = (gR).5 - 3v2
v2 = ((gR).5-v1)/3

a) .5m2v22 = m2gh... .5(((gR).5-v1)/3)2 = gh...hm_2 = (((gR).5-v1)/3)2 /2g

b).5m1v22 = m1gh... .5((gR)2-3v2)2 = gh...h = ((gR).5-3v2)2/2g)
 
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