Programs PhD Timeline: From Bachelor's Degree to Doctoral Completion

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In the discussion about pursuing a Ph.D. in physics, it is highlighted that the duration of a Ph.D. program in the U.S. typically ranges from four to seven years, depending on various factors such as the specific field, research type, and individual circumstances. Students usually enter a Ph.D. program directly after completing their bachelor's degree, and it is common to earn a master's degree along the way, although some may opt for terminal master's programs focused on industry careers. The average completion time reported by participants is around 5.5 to 7.6 years, with some students taking longer based on their research commitments and personal preferences. The conversation also touches on the age of graduate students, noting that starting graduate studies at around 26 is not uncommon and may only be slightly older than the average.
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Hi.
I'm considering going into physics and I realize that while I can't be sure of anything, at the end a phd is very important for a physicist so I was wondering:
How long does it take to complete a phd? I don't mean from freshman. I mean if I already have a bachelor's degree, and do I need master's degree or I can just go ahead and work on phd once I have bachelor's?

Thanks.
 
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This depends on what country you're in.

In the US, it varies between about four and seven years, depending on which field you're in, whether it's experimental or theoretical, how much luck you have with your research work, etc.

Also, in the US, students who are aiming for a physics Ph.D. generally enter a Ph.D. program directly after finishing their bachelor's degree. After they've passed enough coursework they can pick up an M.S. along the way. There are also "terminal masters'" programs which do not lead on to a Ph.D. program, and are generally specialized in some way (e.g. applied physics) and are intended for a career in industry rather than in research.
 
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and this time it takes from Bachelor's or Masters? Do you need to go through masters degree or you can start right after you get bachelor's?
 
Eric Cartman said:
and this time it takes from Bachelor's or Masters? Do you need to go through masters degree or you can start right after you get bachelor's?

Read ZapperZ's stickied post entitled "So, you want to be a physicist?"
 
Eric Cartman said:
and this time it takes from Bachelor's or Masters? Do you need to go through masters degree or you can start right after you get bachelor's?

From bachelor's. As I wrote in my previous post:

in the US, students who are aiming for a physics Ph.D. generally enter a Ph.D. program directly after finishing their bachelor's degree.
 
At my school the average is 5.5 years. One of the biophysics guys got done in 4 years (granted he worked his butt off). On the other hand, someone in my astro group took 7 years.
 
It took me seven years, in experimental HEP, five and a half years after I joined a research group. I could probably have finished a year earlier, but my research group wasn't in any hurry to kick me out so long as they had enough analysis work that I could do alongside my dissertation, to justify paying me. They even let me stay for a year after I finished, while I was job-hunting. So I was effectively a graduate student for eight years.
 
In my dept. (physics) the average is 7.6 years.
 
The longer, the better.
 
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Why is that?
 
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Matter of personal preference. Longer till interest acrues on loans, take time to enjoy your research instead of grinding on it, really soak up the material and learn the funding markets.
 
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So, it appears that 5 years is a pretty common number, while there can be exception.
It was important to me because I'm starting my studies pretty late compared to other people so I had know how long the entire process might take.

Thanks everybody!
 
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Eric Cartman said:
So, it appears that 5 years is a pretty common number, while there can be exception.
It was important to me because I'm starting my studies pretty late compared to other people so I had know how long the entire process might take.

Thanks everybody!

As of now my plans are to go to grad school and I won't be entering till I'm around 26. So this might be similar to you. Does anybody know if this is much older then most grad school freshman?
 
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I entered at 26 which put me as one of the older grad students but only by a year or 2 on average. That was in mech. engineering.
 
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