How long does it take for the angle of the javelin to change from 35 to 20?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time it takes for a javelin's launch angle to decrease from 35° to 20° after being thrown at a speed of 26 m/s. Initial calculations for the vertical components of velocity at these angles were made, yielding 15 m/s at 35° and 8.9 m/s at 20°. The user attempted to apply kinematic equations but received feedback that they were incorrectly assuming constant speed rather than recognizing that the horizontal component of velocity remains constant while the vertical component changes due to gravity. Suggestions were made to maintain significant figures throughout calculations for accuracy. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the physics principles involved in projectile motion.
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Homework Statement


In the javelin throw at a track-and-field event, the javelin is launched at a speed of 26 m/s at an angle of 35° above the horizontal. As the javelin travels upward, its velocity points above the horizontal at an angle that decreases as time passes. How much time is required for the angle to be reduced from 35° at launch to 20°?


Homework Equations


vy = v0y + ay t
y = x0 + vy t
y = v0y t + 1/2 ay t^2
vy^2 = v0y^2 + 2 ay y
(And also substitute x for y in the above for horizontal components)
vx = v cos theta
vy = v sin theta



The Attempt at a Solution


Well, I thought that if I could find out how much the y component changes, I could plug it into the vy = v0y + ay t equation.
So, I found the vertical component of when the javelin is released at 35 degrees to be 15 m/s, and the vertical component at 20 degrees is 8.9 m/s.
I found this by:
vy = 26 sin 35 = 15 m/s
vy = 26 sin 20 = 8.9 m/s
Then, I plugged it into the kinematic equation:
8.9 m = 15 m + (-9.8 m/s)t
t = .62 seconds

Unfortunately, this turned out to be incorrect. Any help is appreciated! :)
 
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Hi Ohoneo! :smile:

(have a theta: θ and try using the X2 and X2 icons just above the Reply box :wink:)
Ohoneo said:
vy = 26 sin 35 = 15 m/s
vy = 26 sin 20 = 8.9 m/s

No, you're assuming that the speed is constant. :redface:

What is constant? :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Ohoneo! :smile:

(have a theta: θ and try using the X2 and X2 icons just above the Reply box :wink:)


No, you're assuming that the speed is constant. :redface:

What is constant? :wink:



Ah, thanks! I was wondering how to enter those!
See, that's where I'm confused. Acceleration would be constant in the y direction (-9.80 m/s2), and then acceleration would be 0 in the x direction... but, then, nothing else is constant.
 
Ohoneo said:
… acceleration would be 0 in the x direction...

yup! :smile: … so the component of velocity in the x direction must be constant! :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
yup! :smile: … so the component of velocity in the x direction must be constant! :wink:

Alright, so using that I found that at 20 degrees, vx = 21 m/s
So, I need to find v, or vy.
to do that, I plugged in 21 = v cos 20
So I found that v = 22 m/s
Then I plugged that into 222 = 212 + vy2
So I got vy = 7.6. So I plugged into vy(final) = vy(initial) + ayt
And I got t = .13 seconds.. which is still wrong =/
 
Hi Ohoneo! :smile:

Your equations look correct, but you're not using enough significant figures

in the middle of a calculation, you must always use more sig figs than you need in the final answer …

when you subtract 212 from 222, you obviously need the 22 to be a lot more accurate than to the nearest whole number! :wink:

Try again, using two decimal places until the end. :smile:
 
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