How Many Sensors Does a Typical Rocket Have?

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The discussion revolves around the number and types of sensors typically found in rockets, with a focus on conventional fluid rockets. Participants explore various examples, including historical rockets like the Saturn V and modern rockets such as those from SpaceX.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the number of sensors varies significantly depending on the type of rocket, with estimates ranging from a couple for small hobbyist rockets to hundreds for larger rockets.
  • One participant claims that a typical large liquid-fueled rocket stage might have around 100 sensors, primarily hall effect sensors and optical encoders.
  • Another participant mentions that the Saturn V's first stage had over 900 sensors, while speculating that modern rockets like SpaceX's Falcon could have a higher sensor load.
  • Concerns are raised about the proprietary nature of sensor information for commercial rockets, suggesting that exact numbers may not be publicly available.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the low sensor counts reported for modern rockets, comparing them to the number of sensors in consumer electronics.
  • One participant notes that the sensor count for a 30-ton fighter jet was specified as 256, indicating that modern rockets likely have a higher count due to advanced networking capabilities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the number of sensors in rockets, with multiple competing views and uncertainties expressed regarding the specifics of different rocket types and their sensor configurations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the vagueness of the initial question, which may limit the ability to provide definitive answers. The variability in sensor counts is influenced by factors such as rocket size, type, and technological advancements.

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Hi,does anyone know how many sensors a typical rocket have and what they are? Where can I find such a list?Senmeis
 
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senmeis said:
Hi,does anyone know how many sensors a typical rocket have and what they are? Where can I find such a list?Senmeis
Depends on the rocket. What kind?
 
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Typical large liquid-fueled rocket stage (not the whole rocket) would have about 100 sensors. Majority of them are hall effect sensors and optical encoders in various servo-mechanisms.
 
russ_watters said:
Depends on the rocket. What kind?
Just conventional fluid rocket, not so specific as Delta.Senmeis
 
senmeis said:
Just conventional fluid rocket, not so specific as Delta.Senmeis
you are still being very vague ... get specific !

hobbyist rocket ?
commercial one ?
size ?
and any other relevant info for people to help you

I could say as many as maybe 500 for an old Saturn V or as few as a couple for a small hobbyist one
 
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Probably this kind of information on a commercial rocket like a Space-X Falcon is proprietary and not publicly available.
 
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senmeis said:
Just conventional fluid rocket, not so specific as Delta.
"In 1969, the Saturn 5 1st stage had over 900 sensors poling at up to 120 samples per second and had about a dozen live feed video cameras..."
"I would think it is safe to say that the sensor load of data at SpaceX was likely higher than what was seen in 1969..."

(above from: https://www.quora.com/What-technolo...nvestigation-of-the-recent-Falcon-9-explosion)

Cheers,
Tom
 
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Tom.G said:
"In 1969, the Saturn 5 1st stage had over 900 sensors poling at up to 120 samples per second and had about a dozen live feed video cameras..."
"I would think it is safe to say that the sensor load of data at SpaceX was likely higher than what was seen in 1969..."


(above from: https://www.quora.com/What-technolo...nvestigation-of-the-recent-Falcon-9-explosion)

Cheers,
Tom
Likely correct, but please remember Saturn 5 had 5 engines in first stage. Modern stages (with exception of Falcon) usually have 1-2 engines.
 
I can believe the numbers for the Saturn V, but the numbers for modern rockets seem shockingly/impossibly low. My cell phone and a single industrial motor controller each have around a dozen sensors. I'd be shocked if a SpaceX rocket didn't have thousands or tens of thousands.
 
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russ_watters said:
I can believe the numbers for the Saturn V, but the numbers for modern rockets seem shockingly/impossibly low. My cell phone and a single industrial motor controller each have around a dozen sensors. I'd be shocked if a SpaceX rocket didn't have thousands or tens of thousands.
Well, one spec for 30-ton 2-engine fighter jet i seen back in 2004 called for 256 sensor inputs in electronics bay. Will be actually lower count because some inputs are unused. Older fighters with network based on milstd-1553 were limited to 32 sensors per bus. Plus some sensors wired as stand alone.
Falcon rocket actually have Ethernet bus from beginning, which indicate they have much more than 256 sensors typical for CAN-like networks, and i expect sensor count for Falcon to be in lower thousands range.
 
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The question in this thread is so vague, there can be no right answers or wrong answers.

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@senmeis , if you can provide a more specific version of your question, send me a PM and we can reopen this thread.
 
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