Okay, so like a child drawn to a camp fire, I am drawn to this all of a sudden. Earlier Math Is Hard mentioned Desmond Morris in some thread. So talking about Desmond Morris, Morris proposed 12 steps that western culture men/women go through from first contact to intimate relationships. He said some of the steps may be skipped, but they are usually followed even if people take them for granted. He said most of the time when someone is accused of going too fast, it isn't time frame but rather if they actually go through these steps (an unwritten rule that most don't even think about). The steps: 1. Eye to body 2. Eye to eye 3. Voice to voice 4. Hand to hand 5. Arm to shoulder 6. Arm to waist 7. Mouth to mouth 8. Hand to head 9. Hand to body 10. Mouth to breast 11. Hand to genitals 12. You can use your imagination Then in between each of these steps there are go-ahead signals for the next step, and also things meaning "I'm not ready for that". For example when a man first holds a woman's hand he usually waits for her to press his hand or something similar before he takes the next step of allowing his fingers to intertwine with hers. So I'm only interested in how accurate the steps are leading up to kissing. The poll is: "In your experience, how often do steps 1 through 7 happen for kissing?" Thanks so much for helping out in this poll.