How to build an RC circuit for intermittent light bulb?

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The discussion revolves around building an RC circuit to intermittently light a bulb, exploring various methods and components suitable for achieving this effect. Participants consider both theoretical and practical aspects of circuit design, including the use of capacitors, resistors, and alternative materials for conductivity.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests placing a light bulb in series with an electrolytic capacitor to create intermittent lighting, recommending a capacitor value of around 1000 µF.
  • Another participant questions the feasibility of using ionic substances as conductors in the circuit, expressing concern about resistance levels with a 3-volt battery.
  • A historical reference is made to using relaxation oscillators with neon lamps for similar flashing effects, noting that incandescent bulbs require higher voltages to operate in this manner.
  • Some participants propose using a relay to create a flashing effect, suggesting that it could be suitable for educational demonstrations.
  • Discussion includes the idea of using a low-frequency AC voltage source or pulsing DC to achieve the desired intermittent lighting.
  • A participant mentions the use of a 555 timer in an astable configuration to generate continuous pulses for the light, contrasting it with other configurations like monostable.
  • There is mention of hysteresis in circuits, particularly in relation to the NE-51 neon bulb circuit, which operates based on specific voltage thresholds.

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Participants express a variety of methods and components for creating an intermittent light effect, with no clear consensus on the best approach. Multiple competing views on circuit design and component selection remain present throughout the discussion.

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Some participants highlight limitations regarding the voltage requirements for different types of bulbs and the potential challenges of using non-traditional conductors. The discussion also reflects varying levels of familiarity with electronic components and circuit design principles.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring basic electronics, educators seeking demonstration ideas for teaching electricity concepts, and hobbyists looking for practical circuit-building advice.

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Hi guys, I am trying to built an RC circuit in series to light a bulb intermitently. That is on and off in a time interval. Any ideas?
 
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You could just put the light bulb in series with an electrolytic capacitor across a power supply.

You will see a flash in the lamp when the capacitor charges or is discharged through the lamp.

Don't discharge it while the power supply is still connected.

I'd try 1000 uF or so.
 
Instead of using wires to connect my circuit can i use any ionic subtances as a conductor. Or will the resistance be to0 high... I am using a 3 voltz battery.
 
We used to make relaxation (RC) oscillators with a capacitor, resistor, and a NE-51 neon lamp. Occasionally you will see flashing highway markers at night that use this circuit. This cannot be done with an incandescent lamp, however. It takes about 60 or 70 volts DC minumum to make it work.
 
Yes, any conductor will work, but to get a good flash, you would need a fairly low resistance path.
I suppose very salty water would be OK.

There are other ways of making a light flash. What are you trying to do?
 
"There are other ways of making a light flash. What are you trying to do?"

This is for a presentation I am doing to elementary students about electrity...

What other ways do you suggest?
 
Ok, if it is elementary electricity, you might not want to use any electronics. That would seem like a magic black box.
Electronics would allow you to use tricks like having the flash rate depend on ambient light, though.

You could use a relay.
You get a relay to pull in a set of contacts to remove its own power so it let's go and applies the power again. Just like a buzzer.
If you put a large capacitor across the relay, the action will be slowed down.

You then have another set of contacts on the relay switch the light on and off.
Great for Christmas trees.
 
just use a very low frequency AC voltage source
 
The power needed would be pulsing DC.
There should be no voltage, then a suitable DC voltage to run the lamp, then no voltage etc.

There are function generators that can do this, but a simple 555 oscillator would do it for a couple of dollars.
see
http://www.doctronics.co.uk/555.htm
You would need an astable circuit for this since it is a repeating effect.
 
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vk6kro said:
see
http://www.doctronics.co.uk/555.htm
You would need an astable circuit for this since it is a repeating effect.
No. Anything with hysteresis will work. The NE-51 (neon bulb) circuit (see my previous post) works because the NE-51 ignites and conducts when the voltage on the parallel capacitor reaches about 55 volts, then when the capacitor voltage drops to about 45 volts, the lamp extinguishes and stops conducting. Then the capacitor charges again.
 
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Hi Bob,

IF you are using a 555 to produce a continuous stream of pulses, THEN you need to use the ASTABLE multivibrator configuration of the 555.

This is just to say that you would not use a MONOSTABLE, for instance.

It was nothing to do with neon tubes.
 

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