Loss due to contraction vs loss due to expansion

In summary, the formula for frictional pipe loss due to contraction is given by kc(V^2)/2g, while the formula for pipe loss due to expansion is (Va^2)-(Vb^2)/2g, where Va is the velocity at the inlet and Vb is the velocity at the outlet. This is because the pressure varies in an unknown and unpredictable way in a contracted pipe, while for an expanded pipe, the pressure can be calculated using the formula for velocity head. However, this can be confusing because the pressure also varies in an unknown and unpredictable way in an enlarged pipe. Quora is not a scientific source. To model the effect of pipe diameter change on pressure, the high velocity and low pressure at smaller
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Homework Statement


why the formula of fricitional pipe loss due to contraction is given by formula : kc(V^2)/2g ?
why the formula of fricitional pipe loss due to contraction can't be formula : (Va^2)-(Vb^2)/2g ? ,where Va= velocity at inlet , Vb = velocity at outlet ?

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in this link , i was told that the pressure varies in an unknown and unpredictable way. but , for pipe loss due to expansion , the formula is
(Va^2)-(Vb^2)/2g ? ,where Va= velocity at inlet , Vb = velocity at outlet ?this make me confused... isn't the pressure also varies in an unknown and unpredictable way in enlarged pipe ?
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-formula-for-the-loss-of-head-in-a-sudden-contraction-of-a-pipe-presented-in-terms-of-velocity-head-in-the-smaller-pipe
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Note: Quora is not a scientific source.
How would you go about modelling the pipe diameter change effect on pressure?
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Note: Quora is not a scientific source.
How would you go about modelling the pipe diameter change effect on pressure?
When the diamter small, velocity high, pressure low
 
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I was told that the friction loss due to expansion is bigger than the friction loss due to contraction because of flow separation , is it true ? why ?
 

1. What is meant by "loss due to contraction vs loss due to expansion"?

Loss due to contraction and loss due to expansion refer to the decrease or increase in size or volume of a material or substance. This change in size or volume can result in a loss of material, which can have different causes and consequences.

2. What is the main difference between loss due to contraction and loss due to expansion?

The main difference between loss due to contraction and loss due to expansion is the direction in which the material or substance changes in size or volume. In loss due to contraction, the material or substance decreases in size or volume, while in loss due to expansion, it increases in size or volume.

3. What causes loss due to contraction and expansion?

Loss due to contraction and expansion can be caused by various factors, including changes in temperature, pressure, or moisture content. These changes can lead to the contraction or expansion of materials, resulting in a loss of material.

4. How do scientists measure loss due to contraction and expansion?

Scientists use different methods to measure loss due to contraction and expansion, depending on the material or substance being studied. Some common methods include measuring changes in length or volume using specialized instruments, such as rulers, calipers, or volumetric flasks.

5. What are the practical applications of understanding loss due to contraction and expansion?

Understanding loss due to contraction and expansion is crucial in many fields, such as engineering, construction, and material science. By knowing how materials behave under different conditions, scientists can design more efficient and durable structures, predict potential damages, and develop new materials with specific properties.

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