How to Calculate the Electric Field at the Origin from a Uniformly Charged Rod?

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The problem involves calculating the electric field at the origin due to a uniformly charged rod positioned along the line y = -14.9 cm, extending from x = 0 to x = 42.8 cm. The charge density is given as 34.2 nC/m.

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  • Participants discuss the mathematical formulation for the electric field components, including the integration process for both the x and y components. There is a focus on the expected signs of the electric field components and the implications of the charge's position.

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Some participants affirm the original poster's approach while questioning the expected signs of the electric field components. There is an exploration of whether the negative coordinate of the y position affects the calculations.

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Participants are considering the implications of the charge's position and the resulting electric field direction, as well as the potential for negative values in the calculated components.

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Homework Statement



A line of charge with a uniform density of 34.2 nC/m lies along the line y = -14.9 cm, between the points with coordinates x = 0 and x = 42.8 cm. Calculate the electric field it creates at the origin, entering first the x component then the y component

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The Attempt at a Solution


E_x = 1/(4πε₀) ∫ λ dx * 1/ (Y² + x²) * x/((Y² + x²)^½

where Y is the vertical distance 14.9 cm.
λ dx is the charge element dq, 1/ (Y² + x²) is the " 1/r^2 " and x/((Y² + x²)^½ is the geometric factor for the x-component ("sin(α)" ).

Then the integral gives

E_x = λ/(8πε₀) ∫ du * 1/ u^(3/2)
= λ/(8πε₀) [-2/√u]
= λ/(4πε₀) (1/Y - 1/√(Y² + X²)) [where X = 42.8 cm] Along the same line of reasoning we have for the y-component

E_y = 1/(4πε₀) ∫ λ dx * 1/ (Y² + x²) * Y/((Y² + x²)^½
= Yλ/(4πε₀) ∫ dx /(Y² + x²)^(3/2)
= λ/(4πε₀) X/(Y√(Y² + X²)) When i substituted λ (34.2*10^-9 C/m), X ( 0.428 m ) and Y ( 0.149 m) and ε₀ ( 8.854 10^-12 F/m) to calculate Ex and Ey I got the following two numbers which were incorrect and I am not sure what I am doing wrong

Ex = 1385N/C
Ey = 1948N/C
 
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J6204 said:
Ex = 1385N/C
Ey = 1948N/C
Your approach looks good. I have not checked the numerical evaluation. But do you expect both components of E to be positive?
 
TSny said:
Your approach looks good. I have not checked the numerical evaluation. But do you expect both components of E to be positive?
I thought so, do the answers look correct besides one or two of them being negative? Did I need to factor in the negative sign on the y coordinate?
 
J6204 said:
I thought so, do the answers look correct besides one or two of them being negative?
Yes. To determine the signs of the components, choose an arbitrary point along the line of charge and treat the point as a positive point charge. Consider the direction of E at the origin produced by the point charge.
 

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