How to calculate the power distribution through this gearbox?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the power distribution within a gearbox, specifically why the power at loads 1 and 2 does not equal the power output from the motor, assuming 100% efficiency. Participants explore the concepts of power flow, torque, and angular velocity in relation to the gearbox's operation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the power at loads 1 and 2 does not equal the motor power, suggesting a need to understand energy transmission within the gearbox.
  • Another participant suggests finding the angular velocity and torque of all shafts to compute power, emphasizing that power is the product of torque and angular velocity.
  • A participant expresses a desire to understand the intuition behind the power distribution, comparing it to a circuit and suggesting that the configuration resembles a series arrangement.
  • Some participants challenge others to provide their calculations and reasoning regarding the power distribution to clarify any perceived imbalance.
  • There is a proposal to visualize the shaft configuration as having the motor power as input with loads 1 and 2 as parallel outputs, prompting requests for additional problem context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the power distribution issue, with multiple competing views and interpretations of the gearbox's operation remaining present throughout the discussion.

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Participants express uncertainty about the calculations and assumptions regarding the power distribution, indicating that additional information about the problem statement and specific parameters may be necessary for a complete understanding.

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How the power is distributed inside the gearbox
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My problem is to understand the flux of power inside this gearbox
for example I can´t understand why the power in load 2 and load 1 are not equal to the power of the motor (suppose 100% efficiency). if this gearbox was an energy circuit (how to know that the energy is transmitted and shared) thank you!
 
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Amaelle said:
I can´t understand why the power in load 2 and load 1 are not equal to the power of the motor
Where did you find the power of the motor ?

Find the angular velocity of all the shafts.
Back compute the torque in all the shafts.
The product of torque and angular velocity is power.
Power in watts is the flow of energy in joules per second.
Follow the energy.
You need to show your attempt.
 
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Baluncore said:
Where did you find the power of the motor ?

Find the angular velocity of all the shafts.
Back compute the torque in all the shafts.
The product of torque and angular velocity is power.
Power in watts is the flow of energy in joules per second.
Follow the energy.
You need to show your attempt.
thank you
I already have the solution, I just want to understand the intuition behind it, like for example if it was a circuit would be in parallel or in serie, I undertand know that it´s in serie and that the total power goes to the intermdiate shaft before it´s splited between load1 and load2
 
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Amaelle said:
... for example I can´t understand why the power in load 2 and load 1 are not equal to the power of the motor (suppose 100% efficiency).
If you think the power account is not balanced, then show us what you think the powers are, and how you calculated them.
 
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Can you visualize Z2-Z3 shaft as having motor power as input and L1 and L2 as two parallel outputs?
M power = L1 power + L2 power

Could you show us the whole problem statement and information?
We are missing the main question(s) and Z4 through Z7.
 
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Baluncore said:
Why do you say ...

If you think the power account is not balanced, then show us what you think the powers are, and how you calculated them.
thank you I could solve the issue :)
 
Lnewqban said:
Can you visualize Z2-Z3 shaft as having motor power as input and L1 and L2 as two parallel outputs?
M power = L1 power + L2 power

Could you show us the whole problem statement and information?
We are missing the main question(s) and Z4 through Z7.
thank you I could solve the issue :)
 
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