How to complete this derivative proof?

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The discussion revolves around a proof involving a function \( f(x) \) that has two derivatives within the interval \( (0,2) \). The participants are tasked with proving a specific inequality under certain conditions related to the function's values and its second derivative.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to establish the inequality by leveraging the Mean Value Theorem and analyzing the implications of the function's behavior based on its derivatives. They question the validity of their proof, particularly regarding the nature of critical points.
  • Another participant suggests that if a certain point is a minimum, it implies that the function must be constant in a specific context.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the proof and questioning the assumptions made about the function's behavior at critical points. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the proof presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, which includes specific conditions on the function and its derivatives. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the implications of their findings, particularly regarding the nature of the critical points identified in their proof.

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Homework Statement



Assume that $f(x)$ has two derivatives in $(0,2)$ and $0<a<b<a+b<2$.

Prove that if $f(a)\ge f(a+b)$ and $f″(x)\le 0$ $\forall x \in (0, 2)$, then:

$$\frac{af(a)+bf(b)}{a+b} \ge f(a+b) \tag 1$$

Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution

**MY PROOF:**

If $(1)$ is true then : $af(a) + bf(b) \ge af(a + b) + bf(a + b)$ , since it is given that: $af(a) \ge af(a+b)$ the objective is to prove: $f(b) \ge f(a + b)$

Assume $f(b) < f(a + b) $

$$\frac{f(a + b) - f(b)}{a} > 0 \tag2$$

For some $x$ the **Mean Value Theorem** guarantees for $\exists x_1 \in (b, a+b)$ that $$f'(x_1) = \frac{f(a + b) - f(b)}{a} $$

Hence, $(2)$ really means: $f'(x_1) > 0$ for some $x_1 \in (b, a+b)$

Since, $f(a) \ge f(a + b)$:

$$\frac{f(a + b) - f(a)}{b} \le 0 \tag3$$

By the **Mean Value Theorem,** $\exists x_2 \in (a, a+b)$ such that $$f'(x_2) =\frac{f(a + b) - f(a)}{b}$$

Hence $(3)$ really means, $$f'(x_2) \le 0$$

1. Obviously, if $f'(x_2) = 0$ then $f''(x_2)$ is a max, which means $f''(x_2) = 0$
2. Since $x_1 > x_2$ there $\exists x_3 \in (x_1, x_2)$ such that $f'(x_3) = 0$, which means $f''(x_3)$ is a max, meaning $f''(x_3) = 0$ contadictions.I just need help with 1 above, what if $x_2$ was a minimum?

Thanks!
 
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If x2 is a minimum then f is constant if x2 is neither 0 or 2.
 
Amad27 said:

Homework Statement



Assume that ##f(x)## has two derivatives in ##(0,2)## and ##0<a<b<a+b<2##.

Prove that if ##f(a)\ge f(a+b)## and ##f″(x)\le 0## ##\forall x \in (0, 2)##, then:
$$\frac{af(a)+bf(b)}{a+b} \ge f(a+b) \tag 1$$

Homework Equations


Below

The Attempt at a Solution



**MY PROOF:**


If ##(1)## is true then : ##af(a) + bf(b) \ge af(a + b) + bf(a + b)## , since it is given that: ##af(a) \ge af(a+b)## the objective is to prove: ##f(b) \ge f(a + b)##

Assume ##f(b) < f(a + b) ##
$$\frac{f(a + b) - f(b)}{a} > 0 \tag2$$
For some $x$ the **Mean Value Theorem** guarantees for $\exists x_1 \in (b, a+b)$ that $$f'(x_1) = \frac{f(a + b) - f(b)}{a} $$
Hence, $(2)$ really means: $f'(x_1) > 0$ for some $x_1 \in (b, a+b)$

Since, $f(a) \ge f(a + b)$:
$$\frac{f(a + b) - f(a)}{b} \le 0 \tag3$$
By the **Mean Value Theorem,** ##\exists x_2 \in (a, a+b)## such that $$f'(x_2) =\frac{f(a + b) - f(a)}{b}$$
Hence ##(3)## really means, $$f'(x_2) \le 0$$
1. Obviously, if ##f'(x_2) = 0## then ##f''(x_2)## is a max, which means ##f''(x_2) = 0##
2. Since ##x_1 > x_2## there ##\exists x_3 \in (x_1, x_2)## such that ##f'(x_3) = 0##, which means ##f''(x_3)## is a max, meaning ##f''(x_3) = 0## contadictions.I just need help with 1 above, what if $x_2$ was a minimum?

Thanks!
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I fixed up some of it.
 
RUber said:
If x2 is a minimum then f is constant if x2 is neither 0 or 2.

@RUber, is my proof correct though?
 

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