I How to derive Nielsen equation from Lagrange equation?

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The discussion focuses on deriving the Nielsen equation from the Lagrange equation, with participants sharing their research experiences. One user expresses frustration over not understanding the origin of the commutator in the derivation process. Clarifications are provided regarding the interpretation of the commutator and its application. There is an emphasis on the need for clearer resources and explanations to aid in understanding the derivation. Overall, the conversation highlights the challenges faced in grasping complex mathematical concepts.
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How to derive Nielsen equation from Lagrange equation
 
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Isn't google your friend ? What did you find so far ?
 
I have done couple hours of research and tried to derive it myself. The best that I found is this, but I do not understand where the commutator come from. It does not seem to be the Poisson braket commutator applied to T either (A,B) = AB-BA . Nor that I understand where the (2) relationship comes from. Thank you

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AlephClo said:
The best that I found is this
It was the first one I found too. But: Not good enough then, ... (*)
What about the second one in the list I got ?

:smile: Except where it says ##=0## one should read ## = Q_j##

(*) And yes, the commutator [A,B] means: first B then A minus first A then B.
 
Thank you BvU.
 
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