How to Differentiate a Cubic Root Function with a Square Expression Inside?

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The discussion revolves around differentiating the function y=∛((7-3x^2)^2), which involves a cubic root and a square expression. Participants are exploring the differentiation process and the simplification of the resulting expression.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss rewriting the function using exponents for easier differentiation. There are attempts to differentiate the function and questions about the correctness of the derived expressions. Some participants express confusion about the notation and the simplification process.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of different forms of the function and their implications for differentiation. Some participants have provided feedback on the correctness of attempts, while others seek clarification on the proper method and notation. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and approaches without a clear consensus on the final answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the complexities of differentiation rules, particularly the chain rule, and the implications of using different mathematical notations. There is mention of potential grading implications based on the clarity of the expressions used.

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Homework Statement


Differentiate:


Homework Equations


y=∛((7-3x^2)^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


y^'(x)=(4x(3x^2-7))/(∛((7-3x^2 )^2))^2 )
 
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Mary4ever said:

Homework Statement


Differentiate:


Homework Equations


y=∛((7-3x^2)^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


y^'(x)=(4x(3x^2-7))/(∛((7-3x^2 )^2))^2 )

It's much more convenient to write your function as y = (7 - 3x2)2/3. When you're differentiating, it's almost always better to rewrite expressions with radicals using exponents. Your answer might be correct, but if so, it needs to be simplified.
 
I really need to know if it is correct, could you please let me know if it is?
 
(try using the X2 button just above the Reply box :wink:)
Mary4ever said:
y^'(x)=(4x(3x^2-7))/(∛((7-3x^2 )^2))^2 )

that looks correct, but it needs simplifying :redface:

(also, it's a ridiculous way of writing it, and you'll lose marks in the exam if you do that)
 
Thank you for you reply. So what would be the correct way to write it so I do not lose marks for it?
 
first, simplify it, as Mark44 :smile: suggested
 
Is this correct: y = (((7-3x^2)^2))^ (1/3)
dy/dx = (1/3) (((7-3x^2)^2))^ (-2/3) (2(7-3x^2)(-6x))
= (24/9)(7x - 3x^3) / ∛((7-3x^2)^4)
 
Mary4ever said:
Is this correct: y = (((7-3x2)2))(1/3)

i'm sorry, but can't you see how ridiculous that is? :redface:

why not just write y = (7-3x2)2/3 ? :confused:
 
ok so is this a correct final answer now: y'(x)=4x(3x^2-7) ??
 
  • #10
The solution is

12x(3x^(2)-7) isn't it?
 
  • #11
Sorry never mind thought you said derivative not differentiate!
 
  • #12
Mary4ever said:
ok so is this a correct final answer now: y'(x)=4x(3x^2-7) ??

how did you get that? :confused:
 
  • #13
cmcraes said:
The solution is

12x(3x^(2)-7) isn't it?
No.
cmcraes said:
Sorry never mind thought you said derivative not differentiate!
You get the derivative when you differentiate a function. It seems that you didn't know this.
 
  • #14
I am really confused now, what is the correct answer then?
 
  • #15
Mary4ever said:
I am really confused now, what is the correct answer then?

This was the advice I gave in post #2.
Mark44 said:
It's much more convenient to write your function as y = (7 - 3x2)2/3. When you're differentiating, it's almost always better to rewrite expressions with radicals using exponents. Your answer might be correct, but if so, it needs to be simplified.
What do you get if you differentiate the function that I wrote? You need to use the chain rule (correctly).
 
  • #16
Differentiating the function you wrote would get: y'(x)=12x^3-28x
Is this correct? Please help
 
  • #17
no

show us, step-by-step, how you got that
 

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