How to find verify solution to differential equation

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The discussion revolves around verifying a solution to a differential equation, specifically focusing on the process of substitution and manipulation of derivatives. Participants are exploring the application of partial derivatives in the context of the problem presented in an attached photo.

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  • Participants discuss the general method of verifying solutions by substituting potential solutions into differential equations. There is uncertainty about how to apply this method to the specific problem presented. Some participants express confusion regarding the use of partial derivatives and the chain rule.

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Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning their understanding of partial derivatives and the chain rule. Guidance has been offered regarding the correct application of these concepts, but there is no explicit consensus on the overall approach to the original problem.

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Homework Statement



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The Attempt at a Solution


I don't even know where to start on this problem. Usually, if I am given a possible solution to a DE, say y(t)=cos(t) as a solution to y''-y'+y=sin(t), I find whether it was a solution or not by manipulating it and then plugging it into the second equation that it may be a solution to and then seeing whether the resulting statement is true. For the ex. problem I give in this section, I would do this:
y'= -sint
y''= -cost
then sub them in: -cost +sint +cost = sint
and by simplifying get: sint = sint
so for this case, it y=cost is a solution.
But with the problem that is in the attached photo I have no idea what to do.

Does anyone have an guidance as to how I can solve the attached problem?
Thanks :)
 

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digipony said:

Homework Statement



See attached photo

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


I don't even know where to start on this problem. Usually, if I am given a possible solution to a DE, say y(t)=cos(t) as a solution to y''-y'+y=sin(t), I find whether it was a solution or not by manipulating it and then plugging it into the second equation that it may be a solution to and then seeing whether the resulting statement is true. For the ex. problem I give in this section, I would do this:
y'= -sint
y''= -cost
then sub them in: -cost +sint +cost = sint
and by simplifying get: sint = sint
so for this case, it y=cost is a solution.
But with the problem that is in the attached photo I have no idea what to do.

Does anyone have an guidance as to how I can solve the attached problem?
Thanks :)
Here's the "photo":

attachment.php?attachmentid=50458&d=1346730413.jpg


Well, find [itex]\displaystyle \frac{\partial}{\partial x} f(x-ct)[/itex] and then the partial with respect to x of that.

Do the same with partials with respect to t.

Then plug all that in.
 
I don't have much experience with partial derivatives, am I on the right track here: the first partial derivative with respect to x, [tex]\displaystyle\frac{\partial}{\partial x} f(x-ct)[/tex] be: 1, therefore the second would be 0?
 
Sorry for the formatting on that, I had not even heard of LateX before finding this site.
Oh never mind this, it's fixed.
 
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digipony said:
I don't have much experience with partial derivatives, am I on the right track here: the first partial derivative with respect to x, [tex]\displaystyle\frac{\partial}{\partial x} f(x-ct)[/tex] be: 1, therefore the second would be 0?

No.

[itex]\displaystyle \frac{\partial}{\partial x} f(x-ct) = (1)\cdot f'(x-ct)\,,[/itex] because d/dx (x) = 1 .

Similarly [itex]\displaystyle \frac{\partial}{\partial t} f(x-ct) = (-c)\cdot f'(x-ct)\,.[/itex]
 
Oh, so that's what the reference to chain rule was about! Thank you! :smile:
 

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