How to Prove Corollary 4.2.8 in Noetherian Rings?

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The forum discussion centers on proving Corollary 4.2.8 from Paul E. Bland's book "Rings and Their Modules," specifically within the context of Noetherian rings. The participants confirm that a ring \( R \) can be treated as a right \( R \)-module, allowing the application of Proposition 4.2.7 to establish that \( \bigoplus_{i=1}^n R_i \) is a Noetherian module. The proof concludes that \( R^{(n)} \) is also a Noetherian module, affirming the correctness of the approach discussed.

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I am reading Paul E. Bland's book, "Rings and Their Modules".

I am focused on Section 4.2: Noetherian and Artinian Modules and need some help to understand the proof of Corollary 4.2.8

Proposition 4.2.7 and its Corollary 4.2.8 read as follows:View attachment 8210Bland states but does not prove Corollary 4.2.8 ...

Can someone please help me to establish a proof for Corollary 4.2.8 ...

Help will be appreciated ...

Peter=================================================================================The above text by Bland refers to right Noetherian rings and to $$R^{ (n) }$$ ... Bland's definitions for these entities follow ...Bland defines right Noetherian rings in Definition 4.2.1 which reads as follows:View attachment 8211Bland defines the free module $$R^{ (n) }$$ on page 52 as follows:View attachment 8212
Hope the text above helps ...

Peter
 
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Use the "Notation" on p.51, cor.2.2.4. and prop.4.2.7.
 
steenis said:
Use the "Notation" on p.51, cor.2.2.4. and prop.4.2.7.
By definition (Notation page 51) ... where $$\{ M_\alpha \}_{ i = 1 }^n$$ is a family of modules such that $$M_\alpha = M $$ ...

... we have that $$M^{ (n) } = M \times M \times \ ... \ ... \ \times M$$ ... (n factors)

... in other words $$R^{ (n) } = R \times R \times \ ... \ ... \ \times R$$ ... (n factors) ... ... ... ... ... (1)

... and ...

... since we are dealing with a finite direct product we have ...

$$R^{ (n) } \cong \bigoplus_{ i = 1 }^n R_\alpha$$ where $$R_\alpha = R$$ ... ... ... ... ... (2)But ... problem ... formulae (1) and (2) are dealing with rings not modules ... is this a problem ...?

Can you clarify ... ?
Note:

I know a ring can be considered as a "module over itself" ... but does this mean that for the proof we simply consider the rings as modules .. ... ? ... ... or does it have other effects ...

If we just simply consider the rings as modules then it seems to me we can just apply Proposition 4.2.7 with $$M_i = R_i$$ ... but then we are not using Corollary 2.2.4 that you suggested was necessary ...

Can you help ...

Peter
 
Yes, consider $R$ as a right $R$-module, see definition 4.2.1
prop. 4.2.7 will do, cor.2.2.4 is not really necessary
 
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steenis said:
Yes, consider $R$ as a right $R$-module, see definition 4.2.1
prop. 4.2.7 will do, cor.2.2.4 is not really necessary
Thanks for the help, Steenis ...

Peter
 
steenis said:
Yes, consider $R$ as a right $R$-module, see definition 4.2.1
prop. 4.2.7 will do, cor.2.2.4 is not really necessary
Thanks again Steenis ...

Proof of Corollary 4.2.8 should then be as follows:

A ring $$R$$ is Noetherian (and hence a Noetherian module)

$$\Longleftrightarrow \bigoplus_{ i = 1 }^n R_i$$ is a Noetherian module by Proposition 4.2.7

$$\Longleftrightarrow R^{ (n) }$$ is a Noetherian module by definition of $$R^{ (n) }$$ ... Is that correct?

Peter
 
Yes, that is correct

(mention that $R_i = R$)
 

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