How to Rectify 100 Microvolt AC to 1 Volt DC?

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The discussion centers around the challenge of rectifying a 100 microvolt AC signal to obtain a 1 volt DC output. Participants explore various approaches, including rectification techniques, amplification, and the use of specific integrated circuits (ICs) for conversion. The context includes considerations of frequency and sensitivity in electronic applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests a rectifier schematic suitable for very low voltage levels, indicating that typical circuits found online are ineffective.
  • Another participant questions whether the original poster means to rectify or amplify the signal, suggesting a lack of clarity in the request.
  • A suggestion is made to use a step-up transformer to increase the voltage before rectification, with a caution that increasing voltage will decrease current.
  • Participants inquire about the frequency of the signal, with one noting that rectification is common in RF receivers.
  • The original poster specifies a frequency of 100 kHz and expresses concerns about amplifying the signal due to potential error increases.
  • Some participants challenge the feasibility of rectifying such a low voltage without amplification, arguing that a low-noise amplifier (LNA) would be more suitable for the task.
  • Specific ICs for true RMS to DC conversion are mentioned, with a participant asking about their availability in local electronic shops.
  • One participant suggests ordering components from Digi-Key, while another questions the feasibility of ordering without a credit card.
  • The original poster clarifies their location in India, which may affect their options for sourcing components.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of amplification versus rectification for the given application. There is no consensus on the best approach, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal method to achieve the desired voltage conversion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the sensitivity of the signal and the challenges of sourcing components locally, which may impact the proposed solutions.

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I need to rectify 100micro v ac to 1 v dc. can u suggest a good rectifier schematic. The most rectifier circuit i found on google did to wrok in this micro volt range.
 
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Do you mean "rectify?" Or do you mean amplify? Your question does not make much sense, I'm afraid.

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With my limited electronics knowledge I would say you should first transform the signal with some sort of step up transformer. Then you can pass the higher voltage signal through a rectifier circuit to obtain your 1vdc. Be aware that as you increase the voltage, the current is going to decrease proportionately.

It might help if you explained why you wanted to do this. Maybe there is a better way?
 
I think this is done all the time in a RF receiver. What frequency are you talking about.
 
i am talking about 100khz range and no i cannot amplify the signal first as because it would as it increase the error level
 
What exactly is your application that you can't use an amplifier?
If your 100kHz is so amplitude sensitive that you can't put it through a low noise amp, then it is too sensitive to use a rectifier to detect the envelope.
Also you can't make 100uV into 1V without amplifying it somewhere so do it at the smallest point.
 
100 uV at 100 kHz is no problem at all for a low-noise amplifier. If you somehow think an LNA would produce more noise than a discrete rectifier, well, you're wrong. The right tool would be the LNA.

- Warren
 
chroot said:
100 uV at 100 kHz is no problem at all for a low-noise amplifier. If you somehow think an LNA would produce more noise than a discrete rectifier, well, you're wrong. The right tool would be the LNA.

- Warren


LNA'S are low noise amplifiers. I need a rms to dc convertor that can convert microvols ac to dc
 
I googled and found the following true rms to dc converters AD736/737,AD536/636/637. are this ic s readily available in the market? will i find them in any electonic shops seling ics.

Actuall there are a few shops in my vicinity b but they are all of mdium grades. Large shops are far away and I i do not have a credit card to buy online.

I will be going on tuesday. please advice.
 
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Can you order from DigiKey without a credit card?

Also look into NewarkInOne - they have local sales offices in all states in the US.
 
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i AM FROM INDIA
 

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