How to set up double integral for volume by rotation

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of a solid of revolution formed by the area bounded by the curves y = x² - 2 and y = 0, when rotated about the line y = -1. The original poster is considering only the area above y = -1.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to set up a double integral for the volume calculation but expresses confusion regarding the negative answer obtained and the limits of integration. They also inquire about the possibility of using a single integral instead of a double integral.
  • Some participants suggest that the integrand should be adjusted to reflect the correct distance from the line of rotation, y = -1, to the differential element.
  • Others explore the implications of changing the limits of integration and the setup of the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's setup, providing guidance on correcting the integrand and discussing the transition from a double integral to a single integral after performing the inner integral. There is an exploration of different interpretations regarding the setup and calculations involved.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted concern about the original poster's use of the variable y in the integrand and the implications of the axis of rotation on the setup of the integral. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the correct approach to the problem and the handling of limits in integration.

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Homework Statement


Find the volume of the solid of revolution of the area bounded by the curves about the given axis.
y= x^2 - 2, y = 0, about y = -1, consider only the area above y=-1


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The Attempt at a Solution


So I drew out the problem and figured it would be simplest to use a double integral. I'm not sure how to write this nicely but, I got:
4pi * (integral from -1 to 0 of y(integral from 0 to sqrt(y+2) of dx) dy)
Hopefully you can read that. Note I cut it in half so I multiply by 2 to get the volume I want. I'm fairly positive this is right, I'm just curious as to why i am getting a negative answer. If I just have to switch the integral from (-1 to 0) to (0 to -1) why is that? or did I set the problem up wrong since the axis is y=-1?
Also is there a simple way to cover the problem with a single single intgral (I know i can break it up)?
 
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MeMoses said:

Homework Statement


Find the volume of the solid of revolution of the area bounded by the curves about the given axis.
y= x^2 - 2, y = 0, about y = -1, consider only the area above y=-1


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


So I drew out the problem and figured it would be simplest to use a double integral. I'm not sure how to write this nicely but, I got:
4pi * (integral from -1 to 0 of y(integral from 0 to sqrt(y+2) of dx) dy)
Hopefully you can read that. Note I cut it in half so I multiply by 2 to get the volume I want. I'm fairly positive this is right, I'm just curious as to why i am getting a negative answer. If I just have to switch the integral from (-1 to 0) to (0 to -1) why is that? or did I set the problem up wrong since the axis is y=-1?
Also is there a simple way to cover the problem with a single single intgral (I know i can break it up)?

You have$$
4\pi \int_{-1}^0\int_0^{\sqrt{y+2}} y\, dxdy$$Your mistake is using y in the integrand; that is not the radius of rotation of the dxdy element. What is the correct distance from the line y = -1 to the dxdy element located at (x,y)?
 
so the integrand would just be (y+1) and that should solve my problems?
 
MeMoses said:
so the integrand would just be (y+1) and that should solve my problems?

I think so. Try it.
 
MeMoses said:
Also is there a simple way to cover the problem with a single single intgral (I know i can break it up)?

And, yes to that last question. Once you do the inner dx integral in your double integral, you will be looking at the single integral you could have used in the first place.
 

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