How to Solve a Mixed 2 DOF Vibration Problem with Incorrect Free Body Diagram?

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The discussion focuses on solving a mixed 2DOF vibration problem involving a free body diagram (FBD) that may be incorrectly set up. Participants emphasize the importance of accurately determining the horizontal displacements of the springs, noting that they are not simply Lθ due to their attachment points. Correct signs in the equations of motion are crucial, as inconsistencies in the stretch of the springs lead to incorrect formulations. The correct expressions for the spring extensions are identified as k2 (L/4)θ + x and k1 (L/2)θ, which align with the given distances. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in defining variables and ensuring consistent signs in the equations to solve the problem accurately.
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I am struggling with the following question, it is a mixed (lever and linear) 2DOF vibration problem, something I never came across before. I am afraid I am missing something on the FBD, thus the differential equations of motions are wrong.

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You did the right things to set up the equations of motion, but what are the horizontal displacements of the springs ##k_1## and ##k_2##?

They are not attached at a distance ##L## from the pivot, so they are not ##L\theta##.

Also, be careful with the signs. You have the amount of stretch in ##k_1## as ##L\theta +x## in one equation and ##L\theta -x## in the other. They can't both be right!
 
I see, distance L for each spring is given in question, is it k2 (L/4)θ+x and k1(L/2)θ ?

In which case the differential equation of motion become (now with correct signs)
Iθ + k2 (L/4)θ+x - k1(L/2)θ =0
mx - k2 (L/4)θ+x =0
 
Matthias85 said:
I see, distance L for each spring is given in question, is it k2 (L/4)θ+x and k1(L/2)θ ?

The L/2 and L/4 are right.

With θ and x defined as in the diagram in the question, (L/4)θ and x are both positive to the right. So, is the extension of the spring (L/4)θ+x or (L/4)θ-x ?
 
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