How to Solve Cake and Pipe Equations: Helpful Tips and Solutions

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The discussion focuses on solving problems related to cake and pipe equations, specifically addressing volume calculations. The participant initially arrives at incorrect answers for both problems, leading to confusion about the scaling factors involved. For the pipe problem, the correct approach involves using the scaling factor for the radius, while the cake problem requires understanding that all dimensions scale by the same factor. Clarification is provided that for the cake, both radius and height must be multiplied by the same scaling factor to find the new volume. The importance of recognizing how dimensions change in scale models is emphasized for accurate problem-solving.
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Homework Statement


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cake volume.PNG


Homework Equations


Cake one...
Area of circle times height
Pipe one... Av = Av

The Attempt at a Solution


Hello, i would like some help in the right direction/
I had a go at these problems and got B) for the pipe one and C for the cake one.
However the correct answers for the pipe one is A) whereas the one for the cake is E.).

I don't understand what I am doing wrong. If you try substituting values and work backwards the constants i get don't fit.
EG: for the pipe one i made r = 4...
pi * 4^2 * 0.5 = pi* x * 4^2 * 2
x = 0.25 so i got B, but the correct answer is A...

For the cake problem i made h=5 and diametre = 8cm (radius = 4)...
pi * 4^2 * 5 = 251 m-3
i then doubled volume, and worked backwards to find factor to increase radius and therefore diamtre by...

502 = pi * r^2 * 5
r = 5.6418
5.6418/4 = 1.44... so i got C, but correct answer is E

Please help me
 
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Pipe: if x is the scaling of the radius, you should have pi*x^2*4^2*2
Cake: it is a scale model, so all dimensions increase by the same factor: pi*x^2*4^2*x*5 = 502
 
mjc123 said:
Pipe: if x is the scaling of the radius, you should have pi*x^2*4^2*2
Cake: it is a scale model, so all dimensions increase by the same factor: pi*x^2*4^2*x*5 = 502
Hello, thank you so much! I get the one with the pipe, but i don't quite get the second one, where did the other x come from? Do you have a site i can read up on to explain this I'm too stupid.
 
Adam Rabe said:
Hello, thank you so much! I get the one with the pipe, but i don't quite get the second one, where did the other x come from? Do you have a site i can read up on to explain this I'm too stupid.
It says it is a scale model, so all dimensions increase in the same ratio. If the cake starts with radius r and height h, and all dimensions are scaled up by a factor x, what is the new radius? What is the new height? What is the new volume?
 
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