How to solve the moment questions, I tried couple of times but

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The discussion centers on solving moment questions in physics, specifically calculating moments about a hinge point using various forces. Participants clarify that the moment is calculated as force multiplied by the perpendicular distance from the hinge, emphasizing the importance of sign conventions and accurate arithmetic. There is confusion about the forces involved, particularly regarding the two 'F' forces mentioned in the problem. The calculations for moments from different forces are debated, with corrections suggested for rounding errors and sign usage. Ultimately, the equilibrium condition is established, leading to the conclusion that the force required to maintain equilibrium is approximately 27.4N.
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



Tan angle = opposite/adjacent Cos angle= adjacent/hypotenuse
Sin angle= opposite/hypotenuse

M=F*D

The Attempt at a Solution



40(2.83 sin45) -30(4.47 cos26.57) -20cos45 * 0.6 +10*0.6 sin15
=-46.82

which is not the correct answer
 
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This is too vague.What the question?
Moment is not just F*D
Moment is force x perpendicular distance.
 
sry, forget abt the question
 
Find the moment about point hinge A due to all known forces
 
ƩM_{A} = Ʃ r x F

where r is the position vector from the force to A and F is the force vector.
 
is 20N moment = -20(6)?
 
20N =20*6 =60NM
30N= -97.53Nm
40N= -40sin45 *2.83=80.04NM
10N = 10sin15(6)=15.6NM

Can anyone tell me any of the forces are wrong?
 
It's a little confusing to use equals signs like that... edited.
I assume anticlockwise is positive in your scheme.
Note the distances in the diagram are cm, not m.
cracktheegg said:
20N: 20*6 =60NM
Check the arithmetic.
30N: -97.53Nm
Please show how you got to that number. Why negative?
40N: -40sin45 *2.83=80.04NM
By plugging in numbers too soon you introduced a rounding error. It should be exactly 80. Can you see an easy way to obtain that? And you lost the minus sign.
10N: 10sin15(6)=15.6NM
Sign?

What about the two Fs?
 
20N has a moment of 20*0.06 = +1.2Nm

x component of force moment is -30cos(60° )*0.02

y component of force moment is +30sin(60° )*0.04

40N has a moment -40*0.02 = -80Nm

10N has a moment of -10sin(15°)*6
 
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cracktheegg said:
20N has a moment of 20*0.06 = +1.2Nm

x component of force moment is -30cos(60° )*0.02

y component of force moment is +30sin(60° )*0.04

40N has a moment -40*0.02 = -80Nm

10N has a moment of -10sin(15°)*6

That all looks right. I still don't understand where the two 'F' forces come in. Do they arise in a different part of the question?
 
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There is question B, which ask what magnitude of the F will keep it equilibrium.
 
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cracktheegg said:
There is question B, which ask what magnitude of the F will keep it equilibrium.
If it is in equilibrium,Anticlockwise moment should be equal to clockwise moment.
 
  • #13
91.96= Fsin60 5.67-Fcos15
F= 91.96/ (sin60 5.67 -cos15)
=27.4N

correct?
 
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cracktheegg said:
91.96= Fsin60 5.67-Fcos15
F= 91.96/ (sin60 5.67 -cos15)
=27.4N

correct?
I get 27.48, but that's probably near enough.
 
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ty guys, you guys help me alot
 
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