How to use interferometer for surface roughness calculations?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the use of interferometry for measuring surface roughness, particularly in the context of a DIY project involving wood. Participants explore the feasibility of applying interferometric techniques to materials with different reflective properties and share resources and personal experiences related to surface profilometry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in using an interferometer to measure the surface roughness of wood but lacks knowledge on converting fringe distances into meaningful data.
  • Another participant mentions shearing interferometry as a standard method for surface profilometry but raises concerns about its applicability to wood due to its diffuse scattering properties.
  • A participant suggests using a reflective surface instead of wood and shares additional papers but notes the difficulty in practical application due to the lack of construction details in many resources.
  • A participant with experience in surface measurement discusses the ANSI B46 standard and highlights challenges with using lasers on highly reflective surfaces, suggesting that tactile methods may still be the most effective approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of interferometry to wood and the effectiveness of various measurement techniques. There is no consensus on the best approach or the feasibility of using interferometry for this specific application.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in available literature, particularly regarding practical construction details and the challenges posed by different surface materials. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and knowledge levels among participants.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in DIY measurement techniques, surface roughness assessment, and the application of interferometry in non-traditional materials.

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Dear all

I am working on a project and I need to measure the surface roughness of a specific type of wood. I don't want to make things complicated because I have to make the instrument myself. I think an interferometer can help me to measure surface roughness but I really don't know how to convert the fringe distances etc to any meaningful data for surface roughness. If anyone has done any similar thing or has any knowledge on measuring surface roughness please let me know

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Shearing interferometry is a standard method for surface profilometry:

http://www.opticsinfobase.org/ao/abstract.cfm?uri=ao-8-11-2173
http://www.aspe.net/publications/Annual_2001/pdf/posters/metro/surf/1128.pdf
http://www.scientific.net/KEM.321-323.99

But I don't know if you can apply the technique to wood- wood is not reflective, but scatters diffusely; also, the surface features of machined wood are quite different from machined metal.

I did find this, tho:

http://www.jpier.org/PIER/pier80/15.07112706.pdf
 
Thank you for your reply but don't have access to the first and 3rd papers.

You are right, but what if we use a reflective surface? I found these papers too but I don't know how to put them into practice. If you or anyone else wants to share knowledge you are most welcome. Unfortunately, many papers omit the construction details and just focus on the equations and theory which makes it difficult for an amateur like me. I had come across surface roughness problems in the past, so I really want to be able to measure surface roughness by making an instrument myself :). The surface itself is not an issue yet as long as I can make an instrument myself. I mean I can use steel instead of wood or another reflective material.

http://www.eng.auburn.edu/users/htippur/papers/sinha-tippur-oe.pdf

http://fp.optics.arizona.edu/jcwyan...ptical_Testing/10.6 Micron Interferometry.pdf
 
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Having been Product Manager for the company that invented the Profilometer in 1938, I feel qualified to discuss this. The ANSI B46 standard on Surface Texture details the parameters for Surface Roughness assessment. In the practical world I have sold industrial lasers over the years for various measurement of machine geometry or dimensional measurement. Lasers have problems with highly reflective surfaces. Addionally the peak to valley excursions that must be measured by the instrument must be within the instruments range and laser system detectors do not readily lend them selves to this micro measurement. Over the years there was a trend to use capacitance measurement to qualify a steel surfaces properties and this too had a limited range. Dr. Ken Ludema did some work on Laser elisometry trying to qualify surface parameter though I think a product was never marketed. It seems that the skid mount refrenced tactile method of a diamond stylus and motorized pilotor is still cheapest and best.
 

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