How to write another expression (for n) when given a series sum?

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To find Sn-1 from the expression Sn = n^2 + 2n, substitute n-1 into the equation, resulting in Sn-1 = (n-1)^2 + 2(n-1). This simplifies to Sn-1 = n^2 - 2n + 1 + 2n - 2, which further reduces to Sn-1 = n^2 - 1. The discussion highlights confusion regarding the differences between terms, clarifying that the sequence is quadratic, not linear. The differences between terms increase, indicating a non-constant ratio. Understanding this quadratic nature is crucial for correctly deriving Sn-1.
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Homework Statement


Sorry if the question sounds a bit off, i wasnt quite sure how to word it.

My math question is: given the expression Sn=n^2 + 2n, determine an expression, in simplified form, for Sn-1 in terms of n.


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NA (i don't think there are any equations for this)

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I honestly don't know how to go about this properly but here's what I've done:

First three terms are 3, 8 and 15. All of which have a different 'common ratio' when 8 is divided by 3, its 2.67 but when 15/8 its 1.875?
Which confuses me further, and as for the original question, no idea how to proceed.

Any help is much appreciated, thanks.
 
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try substituting n-1 for in in the expression for S(n) and then simplifying the result.
 
shocklightnin said:
My math question is: given the expression Sn=n^2 + 2n, determine an expression, in simplified form, for Sn-1 in terms of n.

First three terms are 3, 8 and 15. All of which have a different 'common ratio' when 8 is divided by 3, its 2.67 but when 15/8 its 1.875?
Which confuses me further...

Well of course the ratios aren't the same! It's a quadratic! Not a linear equation...
 
Its not a case of dividing the n-1 by n as it is a ascending arithmetic method as the difference keeps increasing by 2:

1 2 3
3 8 15

8-3 = 5, 15-8 = 7, so the next difference will equal 9 then 11 and so on an so forth, so your equation is essentially using the "box" number, 1 2 3, to get the actual number in the formula

So if Sn=n^2 + 2n, Sn-1 means you have to rewrite the formula in terms of the previous number
 

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