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The discussion revolves around navigating the challenges of asking a girl out after struggling with conversation topics, particularly focusing on relativity. Participants emphasize the importance of moving beyond technical discussions and suggest casual settings for dates, such as coffee or bowling, to ease the pressure of conversation. There is a consensus that asking her out is crucial, regardless of initial awkwardness, and that engaging her in discussions about her interests can foster a more natural dialogue. The conversation also touches on the anxiety surrounding dating, with advice to approach it with a mindset of curiosity rather than fear. Ultimately, the key takeaway is to be proactive in expressing interest while allowing for a relaxed atmosphere to facilitate connection.
  • #91


Renge Ishyo said:
Who said you had to become a theoretical physicist? One word: engineer.

Eh... What do engineers do, precisely?
 
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  • #92


They make things. And get paid ****loads of money for it. There are all sorts of types of engineering, but pretty much any product that you see for sale in a store has an engineer behind its development in some way. Google it if you really don't know.
 
  • #93


Either way, relativity and quantum mechanics are not much of an application to engineering, so why bother. I would make an awful engineer.
 
  • #94


Crazy Tosser said:
Eh... What do engineers do, precisely?
Like hitmen, we solve problems.
 
  • #95


Either way, relativity and quantum mechanics are not much of an application to engineering, so why bother. I would make an awful engineer.

That's just coming out because you are in a negative emotional state. I don't care what kind of a man you are, you are very likely not going to get a good woman on a casual try. It's like winning the jackpot in Vegas, the odds are that you are going to lose over and over again and you just have to hope that one day you get lucky and score a good one (then you have to be smart enough to recognize what you have and keep her...which is a second lesson). I have had one quality girl my entire life (and thank god for that, that is how I know such a thing exists), and a whole bunch of others who all behave pretty much the same way and are ultimately no good. You are going to have to try a whole bunch of times to find a good one so get used to this sort of thing.
 
  • #96


Renge Ishyo said:
I have had one quality girl my entire life (and thank god for that, that is how I know such a thing exists), and a whole bunch of others who all behave pretty much the same way and are ultimately no good. You are going to have to try a whole bunch of times to find a good one so get used to this sort of thing.
6* out of 7 girls I've coupled with have been "quality" girls. It doesn't always have to end with 'she went crazy on me'. I am friends with several of them. Incompatibility doesn't mean a**holity.

(*only one of them do I really say 'phew, that was bad idea')
 
  • #97


Evo said:
Do men really think that women don't answer on purpose to play games?


Oh yes, they do. Immature women like playing games, so you have to play back. I've had plenty of girls do this too me just to make me wait and sweat it out.

But you can pull the reverse on them, it's kind of evil, and you're a woman, so I'm not sure exactly why I'm telling you this story, but as a guy, I've drunk-dialed girls I used to date at odd hours of the night and you hang up after it rings on their phone once. If it doesn't wake them up and have them wondering, they spend the next week wondering what I wanted.. and constantly try calling me back, which has me seriously screening my calls for that week. A sick trick, but it seemed to have spurred a lot of girls from my past to buy me x-mas gifts this year. Not only somewhat twisted, but pretty sweet in my opinion...
 
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  • #98


mikeknick04 said:
A sick trick, but it seemed to have spurned a lot of girls from my past to buy me x-mas gifts this year.
Did you mean spurred? :wink: Spurned kind of gives it a different meaning.
 
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  • #99


DaveC426913 said:
Did you mean spurred? :rolleyes: Spurned is kind of exactly the opposite.

My bad, thanks for the catch. And yes, it is totally the opposite, which is what they'll do to me in this new year.
 
  • #100


6* out of 7 girls I've coupled with have been "quality" girls. It doesn't always have to end with 'she went crazy on me'. I am friends with several of them. Incompatibility doesn't mean a**holity.

(*only one of them do I really say 'phew, that was bad idea')

That statement I made was probably too extreme...what I meant was to get a really good one you have to be patient. There are a lot of girls out there who aren't "bad" per say, but engage in pretty much the same behavior as every other girl. They aren't jerks, just typical and they do the same sort of typical things many of which I have seen over and over again from my sisters (like the "don't call the guy back game" which was just played to poor ole crazy tosser). It takes a special woman to not buy into that crap and be straight with you.
 
  • #101


:smile: I was just joking about the whole calling her up and making breathing noises. LOL.

You guys actually do this? AHAHHAAHAHAHHAHa....oh man. Thanks for making me laugh on xmas.

Renge Ishyo, your 'you'll be making 6 figures and she'll be working at Denny's' comments are probably some of the worst I've heard yet.

AHAHHHAAahh...lot's of gems to laugh at in this thread.

You'll be making six figures.....AHHAAHAH... WOoooooooooooooooooooo. You just can't make this stuff up. You just cant.

It's generally not good when the blind try to lead the blind. You just stumble into things.
 
  • #102


mikeknick04 said:
Oh yes, they do. Immature women like playing games, so you have to play back. I've had plenty of girls do this too me just to make me wait and sweat it out.
Immature women = girls. Don't rob the cradle.
 
  • #103


Crazy Tosser said:
I didn't really talk to her about relativity that much, but I couldn't think of anything to talk but relativity. And yes, the dinner part scares me. First, I don't have a car. Second, I wouldn't know how to act even if I had one. Third, what do normal people talk about anyway?

Most females don't like guys who talk too much anyways. My advice is to ecourage her to talk about herself, and be a good listener. Ask her about things like: what is her favorite kind of food, what movies she likes, what is her favorite color. Give her a few compliments. Then let her talk, and when appropriate, be humorous. Try not to act too serious.
 
  • #104


mikeknick04 said:
Oh yes, they do. Immature women like playing games, so you have to play back.

Or you can move on until you find somebody who doesn't do that.

Crazy Tosser, the main thing is to convince her your not some kind of weirdo or creep. That's worse than being friend-zoned. At least if you're friends you get to hang out and meet her friends, and maybe you'll hit it off with one of them.
 
  • #105


Renge Ishyo, your 'you'll be making 6 figures and she'll be working at Denny's' comments are probably some of the worst I've heard yet.

I squarely take that as a compliment.
 
  • #106


jreelawg said:
Most females don't like guys who talk too much anyways. My advice is to ecourage her to talk about herself, and be a good listener. Ask her about things like: what is her favorite kind of food, what movies she likes, what is her favorite color. Give her a few compliments. Then let her talk, and when appropriate, be humorous. Try not to act too serious.

:smile: Hi, what's your favorite color. Mines is blue. What's that, you're leaving? Call me!?...hello?


And the advice gets worse. LOL.
 
  • #107


Renge Ishyo said:
I squarely take that as a compliment.

Then you need to re-evaluate what a compliment is.

Respect for the opposite sex: learn to have it.
 
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  • #108


Cyrus said:
:smile: I was just joking about the whole calling her up and making breathing noises. LOL.

What!? But I just did that to all my pretty lady friends last night! All because I trusted you Cy! That's some dirty pool.
 
  • #109


Cyrus said:
Then you need to re-evaluate what a compliment is.

Respect for the opposite sex: learn to have it.

Renge, I had a similar reaction. Thinking poorly of a person simply because they do not want to talk to someone is pretty immature. She's not dumb or uneducated, she's apparently just not interested. And what do you think you are saying about Tosser that he is so taken by a woman you would apparently hold in contempt?
 
  • #110


Is a guy an immature idiot when he ignores all the nasty fat chicks calling him?
 
  • #111


tchitt said:
Is a guy an immature idiot when he ignores all the nasty fat chicks calling him?


That's called self respect.
 
  • #112


Exactly. So maybe people saying that every girl within a certain age range is by default a stuck up snobby superficial booch are really just the male equivalent of nasty fat chicks.
 
  • #113


Renge, I had a similar reaction. Thinking poorly of a person simply because they do not want to talk to someone is pretty immature. She's not dumb or uneducated, she's apparently just not interested. And what do you think you are saying about Tosser that he is so taken by a woman you would apparently hold in contempt?

If the topic was boys treating girls like dirt I'd have stuff to say on that matter too, but this is the opposite topic. Look there are ways to tell a guy you are not interested upfront such as *not giving them your phone number to begin with*. True, I don't know much about this girl aside from the fact that she didn't respond to her phone (and calling 4 times an hour IS psychotic), but if you give someone your phone number you are basically saying "go ahead and call me; I want to talk to you." And then this.

For instance, my sister once gave a guy her phone number and did this same thing to him. After he left his messages, she called over my other sister and myself to listen to "how much of a creep he is" and make fun of his phone messages (she called him "oatmeal man" because in one message the poor guy said he just woke up and was eating his oatmeal and asked for her to call back, which she never did). We aren't talking about behavior patterns of mature women here...we are talking about *girls*. And they can be cruel (believe it or not).
 
  • #114


Everyone can be cruel. There aren't more cruel girls than guys. Adolescents in general seem to have a predisposition to occasional cruelty.

So what's your point? I don't think anyone will see that as new information by any means.
 
  • #115


Renge Ishyo said:
If the topic was boys treating girls like dirt I'd have stuff to say on that matter too, but this is the opposite topic. Look there are ways to tell a guy you are not interested upfront such as *not giving them your phone number to begin with*. True, I don't know much about this girl aside from the fact that she didn't respond to her phone (and calling 4 times an hour IS psychotic), but if you give someone your phone number you are basically saying "go ahead and call me; I want to talk to you." And then this.

For instance, my sister once gave a guy her phone number and did this same thing to him. After he left his messages, she called over my other sister and myself to listen to "how much of a creep he is" and make fun of his phone messages (she called him "oatmeal man" because in one message the poor guy said he just woke up and was eating his oatmeal and asked for her to call back, which she never did). We aren't talking about behavior patterns of mature women here...we are talking about *girls*. And they can be cruel (believe it or not).

What does any of this have to do with what Statape said?
 
  • #116


What does any of this have to do with what Statape said?

I was responding to the comment "Thinking poorly of a person simply because they do not want to talk to someone is pretty immature" (perhaps I could have isolated just that statement to make it clearer). I'm just voicing my opinions from my own life experience and so I needed to show a specific example of the type of behavior that I saw so that others can see where I am coming from. A lot of guys might not know that this sort of thing even goes on if they didn't have sisters growing up, but I have seen this firsthand many times to know what the deal *likely* is. Do I *know* for sure that is what this girl is doing? Nope of course not (dealing strictly with statistics here), but if she truly is ignoring him because she isn't interested even though she gave him her number then she should at least call back and say she isn't interested or even text him to say that. Or what would YOU do if you were in her shoes?

I don't think anyone will see that as new information by any means.

It's not new information, if it wasn't something that doesn't happen in adolescent life all the time then there would be no truth to what I am saying. And c'mon, this is a 90210 thread. Of course, we're only talking about tennie-bopper behavior in here and I shouldn't have to put a disclaimer on every post to clue in that I mean that.
 
  • #117


Renge Ishyo said:
I was responding to the comment "Thinking poorly of a person simply because they do not want to talk to someone is pretty immature" (perhaps I could have isolated just that statement to make it clearer). I'm just voicing my opinions from my own life experience and so I needed to show a specific example of the type of behavior that I saw so that others can see where I am coming from. A lot of guys might not know that this sort of thing even goes on if they didn't have sisters growing up, but I have seen this firsthand many times to know what the deal *likely* is. Do I *know* for sure that is what this girl is doing? Nope of course not (dealing strictly with statistics here), but if she truly is ignoring him because she isn't interested even though she gave him her number then she should at least call back and say she isn't interested or even text him to say that. Or what would YOU do if you were in her shoes?

I'd call the police if I were in her shoes and say someone is stalking me.


Of course, we're only talking about tennie-bopper behavior in here and I shouldn't have to put a disclaimer on every post to clue in that I mean that.

Whose talking about teenie-bopper behavior? I wasnt. I'm assuming the OP is in college.
 
  • #118


Sooooo
Now I woke up as a fat oatmeal-eating guy :D

Guys, I like already... forgot about that girl's existence. No need to insult her, please, she is a very compassionate, smart, beautiful girl that I just happened to want to go out with, but if she doesn't want to, that's her freedom. Besides, I did act like a freak with the phone calls, so she has all reasons to not want me near her face. So if you will stop making judgements of people you do not even know and let this thread die in peace (can a mod please lock it)
 
  • #119


Crazy Tosser said:
Sooooo
Now I am a fat oatmeal-eating guy :D

Guys, I like already... forgot about that girl's existence. No need to insult her, please, she is a very compassionate, smart, beautiful girl that I just happened to want to go out with, but if she doesn't want to, that's her freedom. Besides, I did act like a freak with the phone calls, so she has all reasons to not want me near her face. So if you will stop making judgements of people you do not even know...

Someones bitter.

Hooray, another 8 page meaningless help me how to date thread. Finally. It dies.
 
  • #120


Or what would YOU do if you were in her shoes?

Probably ignore his calls until he got the hint. I don't like awkward situations... and well, if I didn't know them that well I wouldn't really care how they're feeling about the whole thing to be perfectly honest.
 

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