I can't do space curvilinear motion

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The discussion focuses on solving a problem related to space curvilinear motion, specifically calculating various accelerations. The user has computed the normal acceleration and values for radial and angular accelerations but is struggling with discrepancies in the expected results for \ddot{R} and \ddot{\phi}. They note a potential unit mismatch between their calculated values and those in the textbook, particularly regarding a_phi, which is expressed in different units. The user is uncertain whether their calculations are incorrect or if the textbook answer is flawed. They express a desire for clarification on their approach and any potential errors.
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Homework Equations



aR = \ddot{R} - R\dot{\phi}2 - R\dot{\theta}2cos2(\phi)

a\theta = \frac{cos(\phi)}{R}\frac{d}{dt}(R2\dot{\theta}) - 2R\dot{\theta}\dot{\phi}sin\phi

a\phi = \frac{1}{r}\frac{d}{dt}(R2\dot{\phi}) + R\dot{\theta}2sin\phicos\phi

The Attempt at a Solution

 
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You can calculate y,tt (the acceleration in the y direction) = v^2/r = 166*166/1200 = 23m/s^2 the acceleration in the y direction. With this you can find a_r and a_phi by some trig. You know at the instant of calculation that phi,t = 0, R,t = 0, and using some trig you can calculate theta,t.

Does this help?
 
i've already done that bit. I worked out the normal acceleration for the loop, \dot{\theta} as 0.1437 rad/s, ar = 8.601 m/s2 and a\phi as 21.49 m/s2 but the problem is when i try to input all this into working out the values of \ddot{R} and \ddot{\phi} that i seem to come out with something completely different.
 
The units you have for a_phi and the units for a_phi in the answer are different. I think you are off by a factor of R?
 
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The units you have for a_phi and the units for a_phi in the answer are different. I think you are off by a factor of R?

It's asking me to work out \ddot{\phi} (rad/s2), which is a different quantity to a\phi, (m/s2). If i just divide 21.49/1077 that equals 0.0199 which is not the right answer. My problem is that i don't know whether the value i have for a\phi is wrong, or whether I've done something wrong in the equation or what?
 
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Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I suspect the answer in the book. I got an acceleration in the y direction of about 23m/s^2 and R,tt should be a fraction of that number and not the 34.4m/s^2 in the book. I'm stumped, if you get an answer please let us know, if I'm doing something wring I would like to know.
 
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