Finding inveriance size, equilibrium and fluctuations

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Homework Statement
Let there be a pendulum which is free to move in space, the pendulum is connected to a wire with a constant length, which is connected to a fixed point. will use ##\theta, \phi## to point its location.
1. Write ##\vec{r}(\theta,\phi)##
2. Find the lagrangian
3. write equations of motion
4. Which coordinate is cyclic? and which size is invariant
5. plugin the invariant size and find a. equilibrium b. small fluctuations
Relevant Equations
##E_k=\frac{m\dot{r}^2}{2}##
##E_p=mgh##
##L=E_K-e_P##
##\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_i }-\frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q_1}}##
##H(p,q)=p\dot{q}(p.q)-L##
So I answered 1 and 2, got:

1. ##\vec(r)(\theta,\phi)=l(sin \theta cos \phi, sin \theta sin \phi, -cos \theta)##
2. ##L=\frac{ml^2 (\dot{\theta}^2+\dot{\phi}^2 sin^2 \theta)}{2}+mglcos \theta##
3. a ##mlsin \theta -mgsin \theta =l^2 \ddot{\theta}## , b. ##ml^2 \ddot{\phi}=0##
4. I know that ##\phi## is a cyclic coordinate, because only its derivative is in the lagrangian. which mean that the momentum in the ##\phi## axis is constant.

Now it is seems the "invariant size" (sorry it is a direct translation) is related to the Hamiltonian (which I do not know why).
The Hamiltonian is defined as ##H(p,q)=\sum_{i=1}^{n}(p_i\dot{q_i})-L## where n is the number of coordinates.

So we first need to find ##p_\theta=\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{\theta}}=ml^2\dot{\theta}## and ##p_\theta=\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{\phi}}=ml^2\dot{\phi}##

No the Hamiltonian should not have ##\dot{\theta}## or ##\dot{\phi}## so ##\frac{p_\theta}{ml^2}=\dot{\theta}## and ##\frac{p_\phi}{ml^2}=\dot{\phi}##

So the Hamiltonian ##H=p_\theta*\frac{p_\theta}{ml^2}+p_\phi*\frac{p_\phi}{ml^2}+\frac{ml^2 (\dot{\theta}^2+\dot{\phi}^2 sin^2 \theta)}{2}+mglcos \theta## ?

I know that there are ##\dot{q_i}=\frac{\partial H}{\partial p_i}## and ##\dot{p_i}=-\frac{\partial H}{\partial q_i}## but how are they related to the "invariant size", equilibrium and "small fluctuations" (again direct translation)

Thanks
 
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for your help!The "invariant size" is related to the Hamiltonian because it is a measure of the total energy of the system, which can be calculated by summing up the kinetic and potential energies. The equilibrium refers to the state in which the system is at rest, i.e. when the velocities of all particles in the system are 0. The small fluctuations refer to small oscillations around the equilibrium state, which can be described using the equations of motion derived from the Hamiltonian.