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The discussion centers around improving problem-solving abilities in physics, particularly for a freshman student who enjoys the subject but struggles with the speed of solving kinematic equations. The conversation explores various strategies for enhancing understanding and efficiency in tackling physics problems, as well as the differences between high school and university-level coursework.

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  • One participant suggests that practice is essential for improving problem-solving speed and ability in physics.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding the derivations of equations and theorems to enhance comprehension and speed.
  • It is noted that university-level physics and math require a different way of thinking compared to high school, which may contribute to the student's struggles.
  • A later reply highlights that while speed is important for tests, the ability to solve problems accurately is more critical in real-world applications, where problems can take much longer to resolve.
  • Some participants share personal experiences regarding the balance between speed and thorough understanding in problem-solving.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of practice and understanding in improving problem-solving skills. However, there is a divergence in views regarding the emphasis on speed versus accuracy, particularly in real-world contexts versus academic settings.

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The discussion reflects a range of experiences and perspectives on learning physics, with no consensus on the best approach to balance speed and understanding in problem-solving.

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hi, i am a freshman and i really enjoy physics. With other homework like programming, biology, or english (i hate english) i seem to be aware of the time spent doing the problems and studying from the textbook, but when i do physics i loose track of time and i really enjoy it. I am pretty good at math, but for some reason it takes me a really long time to solve simple kinematic equations.

i usually will get the right answer; it just takes to long for my liking and it would be a huge detriment when taking a quiz or a test. What can i do to improve my problem solving ability in physics. In regards to getting a problem right away. (just taking your standard intro course for majors in physics currently). Does it just come with doing a lot of problems? or do you have any tips i could do to improve in physics.

With math, i got a 5 on my ap calc ab test, and i scored a perfect on my math placement test. What i noticed is, (somewhat disconcerting) is that i am good at math because i know how to mechanically solve problems. When i took a quick peek at spivak i noticed that i was not very good at proofs. But if you give me a really hard derivative problem, i'll recognize the mechanical steps needed to solve it but i won't actually know why the answer is the answer. I think that is the reason why physics is a bit tough for me.
 
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ihatecats2014 said:
Does it just come with doing a lot of problems?

Yes.
 
Understand the derivations of the equations and theorems you use. These show you why and how it works. You can find these in the text, online, or from your instructor.

You become faster by understanding the material better; not by taking shortcuts.
 
Practice a lot. Solve a lot of problems. You will get quicker and better at it with time.

Remember problems in math and physics that you will get in university courses will require a different way of thinking than most math and physics you did in high school. Even if your good at math, you may still struggle as you get used to university level work.

This will be even more true when you get into upper level physics courses and proof based math courses.
 
ihatecats2014 said:
I am pretty good at math, but for some reason it takes me a really long time to solve simple kinematic equations.

i usually will get the right answer; it just takes to long for my liking and it would be a huge detriment when taking a quiz or a test.

I don't want to take away from your good question because you are wise to try to improve your speed and skills, and it is not unreasonable to want to do well on tests.

However, thinking long term, being able to solve problems and to get the right answer is more important than speed in the real world. The idea that a problem needs to be solved in 15 minutes (as in a test situation) is not relevant to the real world. Real-world problems take days, weeks, months and sometimes even years to solve. Even homework level problems, that may take an hour, are just practice, albeit good and useful practice.

Personally, I was very fast at solving problems back in school and typically did well on tests, sometimes flying by the seat of my pants, with less than optimal study-time. I have now completely lost this ability (due to age and lack of need) and I don't miss it at all. When I first started working on real problems I would miss too much by not thinking all possibilities through. Now I take my time, and ironically the full problem solving process takes less overall time because no time is wasted backtracking because of oversights. You see, the real world is much more complex than the very contrived problems we are given in school.
 
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