I know that 1^(+/- infinity) is indeterminate.Is c^(+/- infinity)

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In summary, the conversation discussed the concept of indeterminate forms in limits, specifically 1^(+/- infinity) and how it behaves depending on the value of the base. It was also mentioned that this concept can be further explored with different bases, such as positive reals.
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I know that 1^(+/- infinity) is indeterminate.
Is c^(+/- infinity) indeterminate for real numbers c?
 
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Why do you say that [itex]1^\infty[/itex] and [itex]1^{-\infty}[/itex] are indeterminate? We have

[tex]\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} 1^n = 1[/tex]

and

[tex]\lim_{n \rightarrow -\infty} 1^n = 1[/tex]

If [itex]c > 1[/itex], then

[tex]\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} c^n = \infty[/tex]

and

[tex]\lim_{n \rightarrow -\infty} c^n = 0[/tex]

and the opposite result holds for [itex]0 < c < 1[/itex]

One of the limits doesn't exist if [itex]c < -1[/itex], and the other one doesn't exist if [itex]-1 < c < 0[/itex]. Neither limit exists if [itex]c = -1[/itex]. (I'll let you work out the details.)
 
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Think about this in terms of limits. Do you have a feel for what the values of these limits are?
[tex]\lim_{n \to \infty} 2^n[/tex]
[tex]\lim_{n \to \infty} 2^{-n} = \lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{1}{2^n}[/tex]

To investigate this further for arbitrary bases, you probably want to limit the base to the positive reals. One case would be for a > 1. Another would be for 0 < a < 1.
 
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jbunniii said:
Why do you say that [itex]1^\infty[/itex] and [itex]1^{-\infty}[/itex] are indeterminate? We have

[tex]\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} 1^n = 1[/tex]
One of the indeterminate forms is [itex][1^{\infty}][/itex]. An example of this is [tex]\lim_{x \to 0} (1 + x)^{1/x}[/tex].

Here we have the base approaching 1 and the exponent growing large without bound, yet the limit is not 1.
jbunniii said:
and

[tex]\lim_{n \rightarrow -\infty} 1^n = 1[/tex]

If [itex]c > 1[/itex], then

[tex]\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} c^n = \infty[/tex]

and

[tex]\lim_{n \rightarrow -\infty} c^n = 0[/tex]

and the opposite result holds for [itex]0 < c < 1[/itex]

The limits don't exist if [itex]c \leq -1[/itex], and they do exist if [itex]-1 < c < 0[/itex]. (I'll let you work out the details.)
 
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Mark44 said:
Think about this in terms of limits. Do you have a feel for what the values of these limits are?
[tex]\lim_{n \to \infty} 2^n[/tex]
[tex]\lim_{n \to \infty} 2^{-n} = \lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{1}{2^n}[/tex]

To investigate this further for arbitrary bases, you probably want to limit the base to the positive reals. One case would be for a > 1. Another would be for 0 < a < 1.

Heh. Gotcha, thanks.
 

1. What does it mean for a value to be indeterminate?

Indeterminate refers to a situation in mathematics where the outcome cannot be determined or is undefined. This typically occurs when an expression or equation involves a value that approaches infinity or is undefined.

2. Why is 1^(+/- infinity) considered an indeterminate value?

In mathematics, raising 1 to the power of infinity (positive or negative) results in an expression that cannot be determined. This is because infinity is not a real number and cannot be used in traditional mathematical operations.

3. Is c^(+/- infinity) also indeterminate?

Yes, similar to 1^(+/- infinity), raising any number (c) to the power of infinity (positive or negative) results in an indeterminate value. This is because the result of this operation depends on the specific value of c and how it approaches infinity.

4. Can we assign a specific value to c^(+/- infinity)?

No, it is not possible to assign a single value to c^(+/- infinity) as the result would depend on the specific value of c and how it approaches infinity. This is why it is considered an indeterminate value.

5. How do we handle expressions involving c^(+/- infinity)?

In mathematics, we use limits to handle expressions involving c^(+/- infinity). A limit is a way to determine the value that a function approaches as the input variable approaches a certain value, such as infinity. By taking the limit, we can evaluate the expression and determine if it is indeterminate or not.

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