I need some insight from a speaker expert

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the differences in sound and feedback characteristics produced by various guitar amp speakers. Participants explore how these differences affect the interaction between the guitar and the amplifier, particularly at high gain levels. The conversation touches on both theoretical and practical aspects of speaker performance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the significant impact of phase shift on the sound and feedback characteristics of different speakers.
  • Another participant suggests that the audio characteristics of the room and the listener's perception play a crucial role in the overall sound experience.
  • There is a mention of historical changes in speaker design, specifically the shift from efficient to over-damped speakers, which affects feedback and resonance.
  • One participant expresses a desire to understand additional factors influencing speaker performance, indicating a learning curve due to the lack of available specifications for certain speakers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree on the complexity of factors influencing speaker performance, but multiple competing views remain regarding which factors are most significant.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific speaker specifications and the potential variability in room acoustics and listener perception, which may affect the discussion's conclusions.

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Lately I have had the opportunity to experiment with a number of new and vintage guitar amp speakers. I was generally aware that different speakers sounded different.

What I was not prepared for was the truly huge and amazing difference the various speakers made in not only sound but how they reacted to the guitar. The same amp and same guitar sounded and reacted so differently to the different speakers I am a bit baffled how that is even possible.

At high gain levels placing the guitar facing and near a speaker will normally produce sustained feedback of a type rock guitarist find useful.

How for example would one 12 inch guitar speaker cause a very pronounced feedback and other similar speaker produce little or no feedback at the same gain level?

Thanks,

Billy
 
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Factor one, of many, phase shift.
 
Thanks, I will look into the phase shift parameters. What do you consider the next most important factor?

One of the issues is that frequently, exact specifications for a perticular speaker are not avalable to me. I am sure I have a large learning curve ahead of me.

Thanks,

Billy
 
The audio characteristics of the room, and the ears of the listener make the biggest difference.

One big difference over the years is speaker damping. Speakers were once efficient, now speakers are over-damped to give them a flat response, independent of the housing used. A significant part of the guitar amplifier feedback scream was at the speaker resonance.
 

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