I saw somewhere triple line integrals

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The discussion revolves around the concept of triple integrals, specifically focusing on integrals denoted by circular symbols, and their applications in mathematics and physics. Participants explore the definitions and classifications of these integrals, including line integrals, surface integrals, and volume integrals, as well as where to find problems related to them.

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  • One participant inquires about the terminology and study of triple line integrals, suggesting a need for clarity on the subject.
  • Another participant clarifies that the integrals in question are not line integrals, but rather integrals over closed paths, surfaces, and regions in space, specifying the notation for each type.
  • A participant seeks further information on where to find problems and solutions related to surface and volume integrals.
  • There is a mention of the use of integrals over closed regions in space for calculating volume, but the context remains vague.
  • One participant describes the closed surface integral as a method for integrating vector fields over a closed surface, providing examples of applications such as fluid flux and electromagnetic flux.
  • Another participant notes that these concepts are typically covered in undergraduate Calculus II courses.

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Participants express differing views on the terminology and classification of the integrals, with some clarifying and refining definitions while others seek additional information. No consensus is reached on the best way to approach the study of these integrals.

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I saw somewhere triple line integrals, 3 integrals with a circle(the symbol) , may you tell me exactly what are called, to find & study them ?
 
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Those are NOT "line integrals".

\oint d\sigma is an integral over a closed path.

\skew{57} {\skew{15}\subset \supset} \iint \mbox{ } dS is an integral over a closed surface.

<br /> \skew{57} {\skew{15}\subset \supset} \iiint dV\mbox{ }<br /> is an integral over a closed region in space. If you are working in 3 dimensions to begin with, ALL regions are "closed" so the circle is not necessary.
 
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first is line integral, second...?... third ...?... .
Where I may find problems and how to solve 2nd and 3rd kind of ?
 
integral over a closed region in space PART OF USED FOR calculating volume or...?
 
LSE1234 said:
integral over a closed region in space PART OF USED FOR calculating volume or...?

The double integral with a circle over it is called a closed surface integral. It is commonly used to integrate a vector field defined over a closed surface (simply attach a vector to each point on the surface, this is a vector field. Ie., a head of hair or the flux of a fluid through a cross-section, or electromagnetic flux out of a sphere). If you instead integrate just the area form dA over the surface, you get the surface area.
Similarly, the triple integral with the circle over it integrates vector fields over closed volumes, but these are not as easily visualized.
The first courses where one may encounter extensive use of these objects are vector calculus and electrodynamics.
 
In CALCULUS II (undergraduate) these are get coveraged ?
 

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