Idea for a perpetual motion machine

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of a probe in interstellar space rotating eternally and whether it would be considered a perpetual motion machine. It is concluded that even if the probe were to rotate eternally, it would not be able to generate energy. Additionally, it is mentioned that there is no such thing as a 100% absolute closed system and external forces such as gravity and radiation would still affect the probe. However, the topic of perpetual motion is not allowed in the forum and alternative links are provided for further discussion.
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heterotictype1
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If someone were to send a probe out to interstellar space, bring it to a full stop and start rotating, would it continue rotating eternally? Or would drag from errant plasma slow it?
 
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This is a legitimate question. But you should be careful with your words. Perpetual machine questions are banned from these fora.
 
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This would not be considered a "perpetual motion machine" in the sense that we mean in our rules, anyway, even if it did continue rotating eternally. A "perpetual motion machine" normally means a device that you can extract energy from, perpetually. There's no way to extract energy from this particular device without slowing it down.
 
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What if you had the exterior rotating with a stationary generator in the core?
 
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heterotictype1 said:
What if you had the exterior rotating with a stationary generator in the core?

The outside would slow down and the inside would begin to rotate until the two were rotating at the same speed and no more power would be generated.
 
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jtbell said:
There's no way to extract energy from this particular device without slowing it down.
But it would be a way to store energy, though.

In reality I don't think there is any such thing as a 100% absolute closed system. In this example there would still be gravitational forces, radiation, and interaction with the interstellar medium, even if very small.
 
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1. What is a perpetual motion machine?

A perpetual motion machine is a hypothetical device that can continue to operate without any external energy source. It would essentially generate more energy than it consumes, which goes against the laws of thermodynamics.

2. Is it possible to create a perpetual motion machine?

No, it is not possible to create a perpetual motion machine. The laws of thermodynamics, specifically the first and second laws, state that energy cannot be created or destroyed and that there will always be some energy lost in the form of heat. Therefore, a machine that continuously produces energy without any external input is impossible.

3. Why do people still try to invent a perpetual motion machine?

Despite the scientific evidence against it, people still try to invent a perpetual motion machine because it has been a dream of many inventors and scientists for centuries. It is a challenging and intriguing concept that has captured the imagination of many, but unfortunately, it is not feasible.

4. Has anyone ever successfully created a perpetual motion machine?

No, no one has ever successfully created a perpetual motion machine. Many have attempted to do so throughout history, but all have failed. Some have claimed to have created a perpetual motion machine, but upon further investigation, it was found to be a hoax or a misunderstanding of the principles of physics.

5. Can perpetual motion machines be used for practical purposes?

As perpetual motion machines are not possible, they cannot be used for practical purposes. However, the concept of a perpetual motion machine has led to advancements in energy technology and the development of more efficient machines. So, while a perpetual motion machine may not exist, the pursuit of it has contributed to scientific progress.

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