Ideal Gas law Partial derivative

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The discussion revolves around the application of the ideal gas law, specifically exploring the relationship between temperature, pressure, and volume through partial derivatives. The original poster is curious about demonstrating a specific equation involving these variables.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss taking partial derivatives of the ideal gas law and question how temperature can be isolated in the equation. There are attempts to derive the relationship and verify the correctness of the expressions involving the derivatives.

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Some participants have provided calculations and substitutions to support their reasoning. There is a recognition of the need for substitution in the context of the ideal gas law, but no consensus has been reached on the interpretation of the results.

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Participants are working with the ideal gas law and exploring the implications of partial derivatives, while also questioning the assumptions behind the relationships presented in the problem.

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This is a question from my calculus book that i thought was interesting, its not homework but I am curious to how you go about showing it.


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T (∂P/∂T)(∂V/∂T)=NR


We know PV=NRT

so if we take a partial how does the T end up on the other side?
 
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\frac{\partial P}{\partial T} = \frac{\partial }{\partial T} \left(\frac{NRT}{V}\right)= \frac{NR}{V}

\frac{\partial V}{\partial T} = \frac{\partial }{\partial T} \left(\frac{NRT}{P}\right)= \frac{NR}{P}

So, what is T\ \left(\frac{\partial P}{\partial T}\right)\left(\frac{\partial V}{\partial T}\right)\ ?
 
it should be NR. But the way it is written shouldn't it be T N^2R^2/(PV)
 
Punkyc7 said:
it should be NR. But the way it is written shouldn't it be T N^2R^2/(PV)

But if PV = NRT, what does NRT/PV equal?
 
T(∂P/∂T)(∂V/∂T)=NR

T(NR/V)(NR/P)=[T(NR)^2]/PV but PV equals NRT

[T(NR)^2]/NRT ==> NR

you just needed the substitution for PV
 

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